Mike

This changes everything. This is why Dunk is the man - this is some incredible reporting. And it goes to show that maybe all of us should keep in mind that things are never as straight forward as they seem. Those contract details are VERY detailed. The one thing I'm confused about is that it doesn't seem like Willy could've made 400k this year. How has this been reported all along?

But 1.5 TD per game by the O.

None of those turnovers I listed came inside the final 5 minutes of the game. One of them in the fourth quarter.

Nichols' inability to put 7s on the board has gone very under the radar is all I'm saying. For all the opportunities he's had ... it's not a great record of success.

We're talking about the same game.

It's certainly selective memory but not on Rich's part Hamilton turnovers Masoli fumble - result was a TD Blocked punt - result was a FG Loffler INT - result was a FG Wild INT - result was a FG We had two touchdowns on Hamilton's five turnovers and one of them was a pick 6 which means nothing to the effectiveness of our offense. Our offense converted ONE turnover into a TD.

LOL

YFS is Bowman, Harris, Williams, Walker in that order

No, I wouldn't. Considering he's looked miles better in his return and that's one injury compared to what, two or three?

Needed a second national on the PR, since we released Herve Tonye-Tonye

I hate to break it to you, but this isn't really something that is up for debate. You're mistaken.

I don't understand why you're trying to analyze this. Bond has been our left guard from the time he set foot in our lineup other than in a case when we had to reshuffle in-game because of injuries. Nobody expects that to change, not sure why it's notable.

This is your argument? Collaros has been far healthier than Durant could even wish to be since Collaros became a starter The questions about health very clearly have merit when discussing Darian Durant these days. He's a future Hall-of-Famer, in my opinion. But he looks finished as a top tier starter.

"Collaros is debatable"

Local media scooped by local blogger who writes almost exclusively poor quality articles and was seen as a running joke ... Until he broke this story. (That's who Fox Sports quoted)

That's great and all but I'll take media reports (and it's not just Lawless) over your opinion if we're talking who would pay what for Drew Willy.

*sigh* you had potential, Ripper

I'll be there with my group of 45

Maybe you should google "opinion" too. You can disagree with me. It doesn't make me wrong.

Instead of trying to poke holes in my argument, you should try strengthening yours because it's full of holes at this point in time. Drew Willy, in the past, has shown that he is capable of playing at a high level that is good enough to win football games. Drew Willy, in the recent past, has shown that he is also capable of struggling and playing poorly to the point that it is clearly not good enough to win football games. He's done both. So why are you so hung up on the most recent body of work? Because it's a "what have you done for me lately" business? That's fine. And that's your prerogative. But it's not a solid argument. Here's my argument: comparing Nichols and Willy right now is an apples-to-oranges comparison, because Willy has never had the one thing that Nichols has been handed that has been so beneficial to his success - a high performing offensive line. You can blame the offensive line struggles on Willy and it's certainly true that you'd be able to argue that at times, he has not helped their situation by clinging onto the ball too long. Was it a regular enough occurrence that it's worth considering as a major factor? Not in my opinion. Compare Nichols 2016 to Nichols 2015 instead. Look how bad Nichols looked last year with the same personnel Willy was operating with. It was a clear cut case that Willy was the superior quarterback. Now here's the thing: you have to pick a side at this point. Either Nichols 2016 is looking a whole lot better because of the sudden reshuffling of the offensive line OR Nichols 2016 improved from Nichols 2015. Here's the tricky part for you as a Willy detractor: either one of those choices really shoots some holes in your argument. If Nichols 2016 can be better than Nichols 2015, why can't Willy 2016 be better than Willy early 2016? It obviously can happen. Situations change. Circumstances change. Players can slump. Players can regain form. It's not a "one-and-done" business. And obviously the professionals believe that. So why don't you? If that's not the side you choose to be on and you think Nichols is so much better this year because of the personnel surrounding him, then obviously it's difficult to write Willy off because he has yet to be given a chance to work with that very same personnel. The offensive line changes were the catalyst to our season. Nichols has not lit the world on fire, but the offensive line sure as heck has. So it stands to reason that Drew Willy, shellshocked nature and all, could very easily come back in and turn his opportunity with a revamped line into something that leads to him shaking that vacant look off and regaining the form that he's shown in the past.

And I simply don't agree with you. Nor does Mike O'Shea. Or Scott Milanovich, apparently. So there you go.

Yes. I do. Mostly because the argument that is brought forth by the majority of the people who hold that opinion, including yourself, is largely based on emotions.

Yeah, Montreal doesn't have BC's first. BC has Montreal's first.

I don't want Burris in any situation, to be honest. If there was a situation out there that could land us assets for Willy while we still retained a quality backup QB in some way or another, I'd consider supporting the idea of trading Drew. Is that situation out there? I don't see it. The ONLY situation that I can see presenting itself is a scenario where we basically do a three way trade with Toronto/Montreal Toronto gives up: assets, gets: Drew Willy Winnipeg gives up: Drew Willy, gets: half the assets from Toronto, Kevin Glenn, cap relief to bolster their roster elsewhere Montreal gives up: Kevin Glenn, gets: half the assets from Toronto, cap relief, an opening to boost Vernon Adams/Rakeem Cato up the depth chart and invest in the future

I can't help but chuckle that some folks can't imagine the idea of Drew Willy being an effective starter ever again even knowing that the best QB mind in the CFL seems to think he can.