Mike

Half those guys didn't fall through any cracks in the CFL though.

1995 was his rookie year then he took off to the NFL until 2001

huh?

Blows my mind that I read today Juran Bolden led our team in interceptions 21 years ago. 1995.

Initially last night, I didn't think I wanted O'Shea gone. For that exact reason - I don't want LaPolice or Hall as the head coach either. Because we've seen that story one too many times before. But you're right - if the best reason we can keep a guy is that at least it's not another guy, that's not a reason at all. Get rid of him and make sure management does the right thing in the offseason. O'Shea is done.

If the coaching is so bad that even our all-stars underperform, how do you know the new talent is bad? Maybe they're being brought down as well. PS - if you think our Canuck talent is weak, you should look again. Did you see Jones/Morgan/Loffler out there last night? All depth. All young. All Canadian. All very respectable performances.

Willy has been telegraphing every single thing he does almost all season. He telegraphs his hand offs, he basically stares down Dressler every time he throws that screen pass ... he's so broken it's not even funny.

Cuz they're hungry to play and our starters are just walking around defeated. One thing that caught my eye. Darvin Adams - who is an easy example, because he's probably got the most obvious body language of any player on our team - walked around looking pissed off all game until Nichols came in. Hit Adams with a 10 yard catch. Adams gets pumped up. Because there was some hope.

He didn't even make it to main camp, he was at rookie camp where Jace Davis wasn't even present. ... how the **** does Kevin Cone make it to training camp over a guy like Ricky Collins. Seriously. If that's PURE talent analysis, that's embarrassing.

Kyle Walters signed a big play receiver this offseason. Mike O'Shea cut him. The only reason we realized it is because some other team gave him a chance. Kind of makes you wonder how many other players Mike O'Shea has cut that were mistakes.

I'm not saying Ricky Collins specifically. Because he's just one example. But look at him. Tattooed. Gold grill. Personality. Attitude. And what else? He's a damn good football player. And we had him - but we got rid of him. Why? I honestly don't think our talent evaluation is that bad. I think our evaluation of the kind of men we want on our football team is. I'm going to be blunt about it even though I think it's probably going to ruffle some feathers. I think Ricky Collins got cut from this team because he's not Carlton Banks. You can't blame Walters or our scouts - they signed this kid. And look at him in Saskatchewan. Circus catches for TDs and first downs. Top 5 players in the CFL in yards per catch? Walker. Bowman. Williams. Ellingson. Ricky Collins. This kid is an example of the football player we needed on this football team and I kind of have to believe at this point that he got overlooked because he's not the "take home to meet the family, hold the door open for grandma" type. What else is it? Where is the attitude on our team? The only player we really whole heartedly market is Andrew Harris and while he's definitely got some personality, it's the hometown factor that we market. Not his attitude or his personality. Other than that? We don't seem to have a whole lot of it because O'Shea seems to be more interested in recruiting players he would trust babysitting or taking grandpa to the doctor. Gimme some KD Williams, Jonathan Hefney, Brandon Dyson guys. This team needs it.

I think Kyle Walters and company bring in a lot more talent than people think. Unfortunately, the criteria being used to evaluate which players we want on our roster (and make no mistake, it's Mike O'Shea who does this) is not hitting the mark.

That's not what you did at all and we both know it. You pledged your loyalty to another team, which is probably the worst thing a fan can claim to do in my mind. That's fake fan BS and that's why you get "vilified".

I'm done with going to Bomber games. I'm not done watching the team. I'm done making the 40 minute drive and 20 minute walk to the stadium to subject myself to the product that we're being given. I'm still going to watch religiously every single game, but I want the ability to turn this garbage off with the push of a button instead of having to travel another hour back home. We absolutely ****ing suck. I'm sure it's a combination of things and I'm sure the blame isn't on any singular person, but this team just lacks any entertainment value whatsoever. I'm 26 years old now, I've had season tickets since 1999, when I was 9 years old and I used to have so much team spirit that I would save up birthday and Christmas money to buy my own so I could go with my dad. I didn't want my parents to buy my tickets, because I wanted to support the team myself. Sure, it was all their money anyways but that was the pride I had in being a Bomber fan, I thought at 9 years old that I could proudly support them MYSELF. I never used to miss a game for anything. I've missed birthdays. Weddings. Parties. I've gotten in fights with girlfriends because I wanted to watch a Bomber game on TV instead of going out to a BBQ or some kind of other social function. I missed half of my high school graduation to listen to preseason football on the radio. I've driven to Calgary, Edmonton and Regina to watch games, despite it taking all the way until last year to ever see a road win. Two years ago, I went to Los Angeles during Bomber season and they were playing Hamilton (the game where McDuffie returned a TD on us) and I missed watching half of a Dodger game because I stayed in their team store until the end of the Bomber game because that was the only place in the stadium I could get consistent wifi. There are literally no ends to what I've done to expose myself to as much Bomber football as I possibly can and I really just don't give a **** anymore. I'm tired of Mike O'Shea and his "I don't know what's going on" attitude. His post game interview last night was depressing and apparently his halftime interview with Sara Orlesky was even worse. I'm tired of no answers for anything. I'm tired of trying the same **** over and over again and expecting it to worth the 17th time when it didn't work the first 16. I'm tired of watching teams run the same plays we do for 15, 20, 30 yards when we can barely run them for 2. We've seen 7 wins in 30 tries at Investors Group Field and it's ****ing pathetic. If it's not the QB, it's the defense. If it's not the defense, it's the playcalling. If it's not the playcalling, the kicker misses. If the kicker doesn't miss, it's the QB. Whatever it is, we never put it together and I'm just so defeated watching this unentertaining product. Even 5-6 years ago, we weren't very good but we could see progress. Now? Nothing. I was talking with my dad at the last game and we were trying to recall all the good memories we've had of watching the team play at IGF. My fondest ****ing memory is the game where Jason Boltus somehow managed to throw a pass backwards and I laughed at how pathetic we were. That's the only positive memory I have of IGF. Some "so bad it's funny" bull**** that only the Bombers could pull off. That's not how I want to remember Bomber football. At Canad Inns? I remember the TD record. I remember Khari Jones instilling confidence in a fanbase that knew even if we were down going into the fourth quarter, we sure as **** had a chance to win - a good chance. I remember the Stegall 4 catch, 4 TD game. I remember the Thanksgiving comeback. I remember Swaggerville coming up into Section S to celebrate with the fans after a Eastern Final win against Hamilton when Chris Garrett ran over, around and by everything near him in the snow. Remember watching football in the snow? Not at IGF, because our lockers are cleaned out by then. Remember when we fired Doug Berry because making the playoffs 3 years in a row but not winning a Grey Cup was unacceptable? Can you imagine making the playoffs 3 years in a row now? I'd kill for it. I can't remember the last time I actually had to pay for my playoff ticket because it's been carried over from the previous year for what? I dunno, 5 years now? Another 5 before that? Who even knows at this point. All I know is I can't subject myself to this garbage anymore. I just laugh. What else am I supposed to do? Getting mad doesn't do anything. It's not worth investing the effort. The team sure doesn't. All I know is I've gone from a fan who would've missed my mom's birthday to listen to a Bomber radio broadcast through a broken walkie talkie to a fan who literally would rather stay at home so he can go pull weeds after we get run outta the building in the first quarter. We ****ing stink. And I can't be bothered to care anymore.

My choice (realistically) would be Sunderland but I have no idea who the coach would be if we're not interested in the next "up and comer"

They're not going to fire him when he still has the room, because this team is still in a playoff hunt. We're not even a quarter of the way through the season for crying out loud.

"WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? THROW IT!"

LU-CHA! LU-CHA! LU-CHA! LU-CHA! Seriously. Lucha is the best thing going right now.

Footballs.

I think in past years, to extend the game, if there was a week with a clean sweep, nobody got a strike. *ahem*

Greg Ellingson

You can look at this one of two ways, both marketing related 1. This is a bad choice, because it does nothing to fill the empty seats. Gerry James being inducted into the ring won't have the same appeal as Milt Stegall being inducted and it's not going to increase ticket sales for a team that needs it right now. 2. This is a smart choice, because it prevents a guy who holds appeal like Milt Stegall from being inducted in front of 75% capacity.

No kidding. It's been ugly to watch this year.

Yeah - allow it on possession calls and in/out of bounds calls. But not illegal contact calls.

I'm sure I can't be the only one who finds watching CFL football painful lately, with all the flags and challenges and delays and excessive time being burnt up until the end result is a 4 hour game where they still didn't get everything right anyways. I find it nauseating to watch them dissect a challengeable play by going to a frame by frame analysis. It takes forever and no kidding you're going to find something wrong. In my opinion, there has to be some kind of tolerance for contact, especially on pass interference or illegal contact calls. It's a contact sport. Here's my suggestion: eliminate the ability to use slow motion replay on challenges. Give the referees access to all available angles of a play, but you can't slow it down. Am I crazy?