Mike

I thought Barriere stunk and I won’t be surprised if they cut him, but I also won’t be surprised or upset if they PR him. The most valuable position, the toughest to learn and we as fans have the quickest trigger finger? They believed in him enough to wait 5+ years, if their evaluation is that there’s more to work with than what one half of preseason football suggests, I’m okay with that.

I don’t get the argument at all, to be honest. People use an open competition with no veteran incumbents to suggest young guys can beat out veterans. It’s a weird take.

I’ve already made my peace with this. I think the cuts are going to frustrate me more.

Brady, Demski, Woli, Neuf, Dobson, Kolo, Ford Genuinely no reason to put Thomas there

I thought Bighill would be a test, but this is the one that will really show us where O’Shea has his head. Whatever I said about Gauthier, amplify it by a million about Jake Thomas. If we can’t find a better replacement for Lawson than Thomas, just fire our entire front office

I agree with @bluedawg I didn’t really see a ton from Rivers that wowed me. Thought D’Abreu was better

I don’t think that’s a fair take because it’s so much deeper than just one game. We didn’t even prepare a contingency plan last year for any of this stuff. He went all the way in on the vets and left everyone else behind. It bit us in the ass and whether we want to acknowledge it or not, he *has* to wear that. It’s not an I told ya so, but @Booch and I were literally saying “gee I hope this doesn’t bite us in the ass at a bad time” as early as the first week of camp last season and it bit us at the absolute worst time. The whole season had major reunion tour last show ever vibes.

I’ll be the first to admit I’ve said multiple times that if he doesn’t want to use the resources he has available to him, maybe the team needs to explore coaching options. I’ve explained it this way several times but I’ll say it again - if there was another coach on another team just blatantly ignoring use of an advantage that could be deployed on our roster (the naturalized Canadian), we’d all be here laughing at how ridiculous it is. “Why wouldn’t you?” is the common question, there’s literally no downside to it. But because it’s MOS, people give him a pass for it. If he’s that stubborn, where else is he allowing that stubbornness to affect decision making? Nowhere? Okay great. Except we know that’s not the case either. THAT is why if the results start disappearing, I’m not sure if I’d be in a hurry to let him try and put the pieces back together. Also, the way you’re phrasing things is purposely staged to imply that there’s no validity behind the criticisms. That’s also interesting to me. It’s not as if the criticism is “hey, Brady is the best player in the entire league but he’s Canadian … couldn’t we do better with an American?” and we’re just inherently biased. The criticism is pretty warranted if we’re saying “hey, we play way more Canadians than we’re really required to … are Shayne Gauthier and Jake Thomas really the best we can do for significant meaningful reps?” These are low draft capital players on the backend of their careers as run-of-the-mill foot soldiers who have never even bordered on the level of impactful. Our scouting department is great. They can’t produce better than that? It’s a pretty valid question. If you need more evidence, look at the speed those guys we had in yesterday played with. Jamal Woods was probably the worst American interior lineman I saw take a snap for us yesterday and he still played faster than I’ve seen Jake Thomas play in years. Is it all technique? Understanding of the game that makes Jake efficient? Okay great. You’re the coach. Coach the athlete up to be as smart as Jake. He wasn’t that smart when he got here. You defend MOS from these criticisms because of his success. His success turning these guys into players is even more evidence that he should (in theory) be able to turn the far more athletic, far more naturally talented guys into even more so that he can have even more success. We go on and on and on about team culture and how important it is, but at what point do we start wondering if it’s become too much about culture? We haven’t won a Grey Cup in our last two tries, our culture folded when it mattered the most so maybe it’s time for talent to play a part too.

There’s a massive difference between saying it’s his fault and saying he didn’t put us in the best position to succeed. So many people here want to deal in absolutes, but the reality is it’s a mix of everything. Our roster didn’t show up and make it count, but I’ll hold strong and say we didn’t put our guys in the best position to succeed either.

Moses, Garbutt and Thomas comma Tre

Asking on behalf of fans who hope that good isn’t good enough

They keep saying they can’t figure out Adams’ name as if it’s not in giant ******* letters on the back of his jersey

Owen Hubert showing good discipline on that stop

Yeah this is what I don’t get at all. The offensive play calls can’t be doing much for eval

This is boring

Now Bridges got traded mid game

The one thing that kind of confuses me is how are the coaches supposed to evaluate talent like this? Michael Chris Ike in coverage! And they like him!

honey I shrunk the Mike Chris Ike

Likes so far: Moses, Mitchell, Thomas, Wallace, D’Abreu, Garbutt, Fox Dislikes so far: Barriere

Liam Dobson has changed positions and races

What does it tell you lol that there are other guys to get reps ?

I was off on how long Barriere has been neglisted October 2018 first time his name showed up

Is Barriere playing blindfolded

Did Ajou Ajou just win the Grey Cup?

Worth mentioning about Barriere: he was on our neg list for over three years