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Dressler is the better receiver, but do you want to put all your eggs in one basket? If the Bombers were to sign Dressler they probably wouldn't have any cap room left to sign any other nfl cuts if they became available?
How would Saskatchewan be able to pay for him after signing so many guys.
The Blue should have the most play money in the league with Ottawa a close 2nd.
Selective memory.
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Hall is a mercenary. He'll go for coin. If he gets more than $5k more in Ott he's there plus a signing bonus. He doesn't care about playoff money cuz there won't be any in Ottawa and Wpg is gonna be in a struggle. Less focus on him by media and fans in Ottawa - in Wpg he'd be expected to make big plays plus every time he went offside there'd be a revolution.
Right, less focus on him in Ottawa where they're desperate for a face of the franchise who isn't turfing throws into the dirt.
Or he could come here and just fit right in instead of being expected to be a savior.
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Is there any scuttlebutt that we are in on Hall? Did he leave Winnipeg on good terms?
I saw one local reporter tweeted about how intriguing it would be for the Bombers to sign Dressler this week, but havent seen any mention of Hall.
Sort of, but he REALLY did not like the coaching staff we had last year for obvious reasons.
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The biggest thing is obviously the huge ability to not take RTP or face masking calls. To get 15 sacks and only take one RTP call is unbelievable.
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Can anybody find individual penalty stats? It seemed like he went offside a lot. I'd be interested to see how he compared to other dl in the league.
From going over post-game stats from last season at CFL Media, when Hall was with the Bombers he went offside 10 times however 6 of those penalties occurred in two games (3 against Calgary, 3 against Hamilton).
I'm pretty certain what you're looking at doesn't account for the penalties that were not accepted.
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I don't know how he compared to the rest of the pass rushers in the league, but here's the breakdown of his time with the Bombers last season
15 sacks for a total loss of 120 yards.
4 tackles behind the line of scrimmage for a loss of 11 yards.
3 forced fumbles.
7 penalties for a total of 36 yards. Only 1 rough play penalty all year for a 6 yard infraction, 6 offsides penalties.
- HardCoreBlue, Blue-urns and BomberFan
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I just don't see what constantly going on about it proves exactly. How many of these "refs suck" threads do we need.
We all know there are issues, they aren't perfect but... you know what, if you don't like the job they are doing, why don't you go and apply to be a ref.
It's really that simple. What games have you been watching? what blatant calls have they missed? a few PI's? a Few holds?
It's football, it's sport really. It's going to happen, best thing to do is understand it's not going to be perfect because if you are expecting it to be perfect, it never will be in any sport which has that human element to it. It is what it is.
You know this is a website for discussion right?
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There isn't an elite team in the league this year. As good as the west looks in the standings, it's because the east is allowing all of us to inflate our record.
Calgary can beat BC can beat Saskatchewan can beat Winnipeg can beat Edmonton can beat Calgary on any given day of the week.
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Now if the Vikings can just finish Dressler off tomorrow night ...
Coming from a guy who called out Chad Johnson as classless for some harmless behavior, this is incredibly ironic.
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I love how people see Cotton carry once a game and decide his level of ability based upon that.
- Brandon, Blueandgold, Piggy 1 and 3 others
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Couldn't help myself, stoked about tonight's win and needed to discuss it. Sorry for stealing the thread from our normal thread starters.
The Good
-- The Maurice Leggett / Chris Randle Connection, teaming up for three tight coverage tip ball interceptions. Leggett is a legitimate ballhawk back there. He's quickly become competition for Tyron Brackenridge as the CFL's best safety.
-- Ian Wild ... 14 defensive tackles, he was all over the place tonight
-- Abe Kromah was an absolute run stuffer tonight. Just as I predicted before the game, I'll predict it after the game - Kuale has lost his job.
-- Derek Jones ... this guy is turning out to be a steal. Pure hustle player. Blocked punt and a huge block on ST to set up the big Stoudermire return.
-- The tackling tonight ... just to single out a few guys. If Big League Teague keeps up that tackling proficiency (which he lacked heavily earlier in the year) he could be a great NI starter on D for a long while in this league. Randle, Washington and Leggett also all made great strides in their approach to bringing guys down tonight
-- Troy Stoudermire is going to keep Aaron Woods out of the lineup long term if he keeps this up. He's a legit threat to break one.
-- The offense in the fourth quarter ... if we're within a possession late, we always have a chance with these guys
-- Team discipline AGAIN
The Bad
-- Our offense for the first 45 minutes of the game. Playcalling in particular.
-- Nick Moore ... hoping it's just rust, but as of right now, he's a REC2 getting paid like a REC1 and the fumbles aren't helping. Still a fan though, just not a great game.
-- The pass interference nonsense. Hate that this is what the CFL is coming to.
The Ugly
-- The uniforms. Good lord.
-- Matt Bucknor's face after Tyrell Sutton put a palm imprint in it on that stiff arm. That was NOT a good play by Bucknor.
-- Alex Brink. Thanks for coming out.
We're 6-3!
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Higgins should go.
He's an absolutely horrible coach.
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I don't think it's Drew Willy so much as the circumstances he's being forced to operate under.
As I said on Twitter during the game, the playcalling needing variety. In nearly every single one of our two and outs, we went either pass-pass or run-run and the offensive sets we used to do it were very telling as far as what we were going to do. If I can spot tendencies accurately, don't you think a defensive coordinator can?
Once we went with a variety of calls and sets, we got the Montreal D on their heels and Willy had the time to stretch the field and operate how he likes to.
Variety opens up the run game opens up the passing game.
What I really like about Willy - when he's not on fire, he is able to recognize it and step into more of a game manager role. He doesn't compound his mistakes.
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Carter has played what 9 games and you think he is a top tier receiver.
Give me a break. Plus Stamps has had ever funky injury a receiver could ever have. He misses far more than he plays.
If your system is to be true. How the hell did the Riders win the Grey Cup with 4th tier receivers. Pure Bomber fan propaganda
Not that I really want to indulge you based on your first few posts, but since I have some time to kill ...
First, re: Carter - what does talent have to do with experience?
The Riders didn't have solely 4th tier receivers last year. They had an elite receiver and an elite running back, both taking pressure off guys like Getzlaf and Taj Smith. Above average receivers often end up looking like absolute studs when they're having attention drawn away from them.
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I'm not going to try and rank them in order, I'd rather try and provide tiers.
Tier 1
Stamps, SJ Green, Carter, Arceneaux, Owens
Tier 2
Moore, Price, Fuller
Tier 3
Taylor, Bowman, McDaniel, Denmark
Then you get into the next tier
Getzlaf, Durie, Grant, Ellingson, Smith, Fantuz, West
If Dressler, Inman and Matthews came back, I'd probably put them in tier 1, 2 and 3 respectively.
You can make an argument for Taj as a top 15 receiver, but I wouldn't say it's a compelling one.
Interesting opinion. I'd say that you're highly overrating Manny, Fuller & Taylor. Even Carter hasn't performed like a tier one receiver this year and IMO that's not just because they don't have a QB.
I wouldn't say I'm overrating Manny at all. He probably attacks the ball as a receiver better than anybody in the league and he's still managing to stay among the league leaders in yardage despite the fact that he's being matched up against by the DB1 in most games.
Fuller and Taylor are just complete receivers and while their track records aren't there, the talent level is. They fight for balls, they battle through contact and are an absolute handful to tackle in the open field. Good hands, good blocking skills.
Duron Carter is an absolute animal and in my opinion, he's the most talented receiver in the league. This will probably be his last year in the CFL. Reminds me a lot of Arceneaux before Arceneaux went to the NFL. If he had Ricky Ray throwing him the ball, he'd likely average over 100 yards a game. Too bad he has the Montreal circus instead.
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I'm not going to try and rank them in order, I'd rather try and provide tiers.
Tier 1
Stamps, SJ Green, Carter, Arceneaux, Owens
Tier 2
Moore, Price, Fuller
Tier 3
Taylor, Bowman, McDaniel, Denmark
Then you get into the next tier
Getzlaf, Durie, Grant, Ellingson, Smith, Fantuz, West
If Dressler, Inman and Matthews came back, I'd probably put them in tier 1, 2 and 3 respectively.
You can make an argument for Taj as a top 15 receiver, but I wouldn't say it's a compelling one.
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I almost hope it doesn't happen. Dressler >>>> Green
And unless Taj pulls another stunt, Taj > Green
You got half of that.
SJ Green is among the top 5 receivers currently in the CFL when he has a QB who can throw him the ball.
Taj Smith is maybe in the top 15.
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Alex Brink drops back to pass
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Too be clear I'm not suggesting that Winnipeg should bring in Ameet Pall as I don't think he fits their system. I'm simply defending the guy or at least giving reasons for why he's in the League.
Just curious.. what DL does fit our system... Pall at 5'11 260lbs doesn't... Laurent 6'1 305lbs doesnt
Its a genuine question - the only DL that I have seen in pursuit as a 'hybrid DL/LB' per se is Peach... everyone else looks like they are playing traditional DL roles
By the sounds of it, Zach Anderson doesn't even fit our system...?
Why are you assuming that fit is based on the size of the player.
It's based on the responsibilities and whether or not a player can excel with specific responsibilities.
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Not allowed to wear a jersey, don't own a golf shirt.
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Don't expect to see Bilukidi here this season.
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/8/20/6047525/new-practice-squad-rules-work-out-favorably-bengals
Probably still doesn't make it, imo
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I had heard they were splitting first team reps, the only place I'd ever seen that suggested he might start was here, and we spend most of the day sniffing our own farts...
TSN 1290 was talking about it earlier in the week.
Ameet Pall
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Wow.