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Great, now we have a junior football coach coaching professional football players. Who's next, they hire the head coach of Churchill High School? I envisioned a staff when Walters hired O'Shea that would encompass a lot more experience than this. And if I get slammed for having this opinion, so be it. I'm tired of all the losing. Hiring someone like Dave Jackson doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that this is the right staff to get things back on the winning track. At least we know some Bomber traditions are alive & well. He probably came cheap.
Good to see you did your research.
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How many import rookies started our first game last season? Dunn is the only one I can think of. Who were the guys people were excited about coming out of camp last year? I'm not trying to prove any point about our scouting, I just honestly can't remember. I can't imagine there was much excitement about what we saw in either preseason game.
That's a good point actually. Dunn was one for sure, Was zach anderson another? Outside of those 2 guys though, I don't think there was anyone else and Anderson might not have even started the first game. Markett? nah, he didn't start.
Desia Dunn (who admittedly, I wasn't excited about at all) and Zach Anderson right off the bat. Then there was Markett and Wallace Miles was a promising receiver as well (although he was here right at the end of 2012)
Hows miles doing out in ottawa? is he gonna make the team or is he a guy that we could possibly pick up?
He had 4 catches for 44 yards last week. Most receptions on the team.
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Realistically all this regime needed to find (in terms of rookie imports) was a running back and a receiver. They found an RB who is unfortunately injured right now but they pretty much whiffed on the receiver.
Defensive end too. We don't have an import backup defensive end.
Those are two of the easiest positions to fill. And we whiffed hard on both.
To their credit though, they did an unreal job with the level of talent in the secondary.
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How many import rookies started our first game last season? Dunn is the only one I can think of. Who were the guys people were excited about coming out of camp last year? I'm not trying to prove any point about our scouting, I just honestly can't remember. I can't imagine there was much excitement about what we saw in either preseason game.
That's a good point actually. Dunn was one for sure, Was zach anderson another? Outside of those 2 guys though, I don't think there was anyone else and Anderson might not have even started the first game. Markett? nah, he didn't start.
Desia Dunn (who admittedly, I wasn't excited about at all) and Zach Anderson right off the bat. Then there was Markett and Wallace Miles was a promising receiver as well (although he was here right at the end of 2012)
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I liked Dumas all TC and pre-season and thought he was very solid in coverage.
Cannot say I'm not completely disappointed by this though. Not that we cut the wrong guys, but that guys that really had no business even being on the team last year are still here. I really don't like settling for status quo veterans and that just seems like what we are doing due to poor scouting. The players that everyone thought were on the bubble this year as starters or role players were Morley, Kelly, Ford, Peach, Renaud, Suber and maybe Markett. Aside from Ford, no one has really been replaced or even pushed by a replacement and only Markett has absolutely deserved it due to his play. How hard is it to find a high quality international receiver? Joe Mack could do it.
I also agree that it made no sense to play Jaymar Johnson so much in the second pre-season because while I hate the idea of a mediocre 30 year old starting SB, what more could he have done?
In the end, I hate to lay any praise on any team but look at the rookie talent the Argos have brought in. Thaddeus Gibson was a very effective college player and just didn't have a position in the NFL. Greg Romeus was at one point a potential number one draft choice before injuries set him back. Vince Agnew was a Joe Mack find who most of us were super high on before he got another NFL shot and I wouldn't be surprised if he rips it up. Maybe it's the scheme that prevented good players from finding a place but it did see like this was a camp devoid of real quality talent.
Joe Mack did a lot of things wrong, probably less than most people admit but that's not really the point. He always brought in rookie talent that got people excited. No one can deny that.
I won't say completely devoid. There are a handful of talented rookie imports that I am excited about. Bruce Johnson, Maurice Leggett and Paris Cotton. That being said, one is injured and one probably isn't a starter so where does that leave us?
I'm just really, really disappointed at the level of defensive line prospects and receiving prospects we brought in. Look at our rush end depth. The backup is Louie Richardson. No offense to Louie Richardson, but that's sad.
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The Dell thing is really weird.
Sure called Jaymar Johnson's number a lot in pre-season just to cut him...
Why we kept Dumas, Howard is beyond me
Thought Moseley played better than Fraser
Can't believe we're not offering Renaud a PR
sometimes you find the weirdest things to be upset about.
Daivon Dumas has to be the least mentioned guy throughout all of training camp, which generally isn't bad for a DB, and you can't believe we kept him.
And then you find it weird that we cut Dell without a chance to get a good look at him, but you're surprised we kept Howard - who also has yet to get much of a chance this TC.
And Taylor Renaud? Who cares.
sometimes I think you just sit there waiting to find something in my posts to blow out of proportion.
Randle wasn't mentioned because he's a shutdown guy, Dumas wasn't mentioned because he was trailing the play and got very limited reps in pre-season
Howard was a turnstyle... Peterson had some problems but showed more than Howard.
Even with that whiffed tackle, I thought Moseley was impressive on STs. He had more speed than the other DL prospects.
Renaud - I will always cheer for Manitobans... would have PRd him until we actually found another better NI prospect
I'm not upset at all. In fact, I'm excited that Hall is gone.
I do that because you actually explain your opinions. Hence, dialogue.
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The Dell thing is really weird.
Sure called Jaymar Johnson's number a lot in pre-season just to cut him...
Why we kept Dumas, Howard is beyond me
Thought Moseley played better than Fraser
Can't believe we're not offering Renaud a PR
sometimes you find the weirdest things to be upset about.
Daivon Dumas has to be the least mentioned guy throughout all of training camp, which generally isn't bad for a DB, and you can't believe we kept him.
And then you find it weird that we cut Dell without a chance to get a good look at him, but you're surprised we kept Howard - who also has yet to get much of a chance this TC.
And Taylor Renaud? Who cares.
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Guessing you don't remember Haulstead.
I see now who you are talking about. What DID happen to him? I like the comment at the end about Marve.
I suppose now, he'll just go down as the oldest looking 24 year old in the history of the world.
Seriously. He could be 45.
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This lackluster crop of receivers makes me look back and wonder ... what happened to Willie Haulstead?
And Jaymael Smith...
Guessing you don't remember Haulstead.
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Watching the presser ... O'Shea just had an interesting response to the question about Mark Dell.
What did he say about Dell??
They asked him if Dell was in future plans (i.e. PR) at all and he said no and then said they basically didn't manage things properly and brought him in too close to cutdown day to even give him a chance.
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That's a surprise to me. Thought Jaymar Johnson showed enough to be given a PR spot.
30 year olds probably don't want PR spots.
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Darrin Bauming @DarrinBauming 45s
#Bombers rep clarifies that none of the 11 released today will be asked to join the practice roster.
So then process of elimination, practice roster would be ... Browning, Dumas, Bolton, Everett, a couple import OL, Fraser, Kemp ... or something like that?
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Typical Friesen garbage to end it. "Do you think you can make the playoffs"
... come on.
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Aaron Kelly is the starter for right now.
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O'Shea confirmed the Browning signing.
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Watching the presser ... O'Shea just had an interesting response to the question about Mark Dell.
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You have to remember that just because someone did not make the team as a starter for week 1 doesn't mean that they can't be a starter down the line. It is kind of nice to think that at the very least we have guys that are capable starters for week 1 and we will have guys on the practice roster pushing them. I don't think that's a fail in scouting at all. That's how most teams work.
Agreed. Only Joe Mack teams start 6 rookies in week one.
Look at the type of talent we went after.
We didn't take the Joe Mack approach of going after strictly young, unproven talent.
We went after the experienced players who have been around and have played enough football that they should be able to fit right in. Look at the names we went through this offseason with significant NFL experience.
It just doesn't strike me as impressive.
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I think it's a fool's errand to declare the off season a success or failure without having played a single meaningful game...
I'm not saying success or failure as a whole. I'm just saying as far as the class of rookie imports goes, it's pretty underwhelming.
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Really disappointed with our scouting this offseason, to be honest.
Agreed, aside from Paris Cotton is there any other real good import we brought in? The fact we couldn't find anyone better than a guy like Kuale bothers me.
I'd say Leggett and Bruce Johnson.
But that's not a good haul, considering they went through what? 50 imports?
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Really disappointed with our scouting this offseason, to be honest.
Is it because they haven't found someone to supplant Kelly ?
Any time you go into the offseason with Desia Dunn, Aaron Kelly and Greg Peach as projected starters and come out of the following training camp with it being the exact same, you've done a bad job.
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He's been playing almost entirely against the starting D.
I'm sorry but Troy Smith sucks.