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OL Foucault doesn't fill our need at the moment which is a Center and we have RG/RT hopefuls - Swiston, Penser and Neufeld.
You can never have enough non import tackle prospects. If Lavertu is off the board, Foucault should be the guy.
DL Smith is interesting based on what he shown in the combine plus he also shown he will not be out of place playing Guard which I guess added to his stock. Picking him, definitely help our ratio especially if he can start right away plus an emergency 7th OL on the 42.
DL Gill is the highest rated DL prior to the combine, and he maintain his stock upto this point. He will be a sentimental pick for the hometown Bombers for sure. Just like Smith, he can help the ratio if he can start right away. Is he the next Doug Brown? That remains to be seen.
Neither guy would start right away. They wouldn't even be asked to do so. Meaningful reps? Sure. Full time reps? Not a chance.
DE Ainsworth is interesting too since he may fill the 'rover' spot on Ech's D which inturn will save us 1 DI spot. Question is, Is he a stretch to pick at #2?That'd be a big reach.
OL Goosen will be an off the board pick at this point based on the Final Draft ranking. I dont think Walters will not go with the same route that Mack has taken during the draft.
"Off the board" is some term people throw around and I never quite get why. They don't like Goossen but what if they did? If they had him ranked as the second best player, would they pass on him just because some bullshit list says he is ninth? Executives should have some self respect and not let their actions be dictated by the opinions around them.
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Does this change in anyway our draft process? Do we go best player available rather than position of need ie. center if Ottawa takes Pierre Lavertu at #1 over David Foucault who is now rated higher for instance? It seems now that if we go by these ratings, someone like #9 Matthias Goosen may be more of a stretch now drafted number 2 even though he could meet a need for this team.
Quite frankly, as much as you'll see movement that mirrors the thoughts of executives, trying to make pinpoint rankings off this list is pointless. The list is full of smoke and mirrors.
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A lot of what I expected to see did end up happening ... Landry, Caron and Goosen were three guys I was expecting to see drop and I figured Pruneau and Ainsworth were in for a stock boost, but I have to admit I didn't expect to see Foucault go over Lavertu, Menard to show up in the top 15 and I certainly didn't expect to see Quinn Smith jump THAT high. Maybe he will go that high, I have to admit I didn't see much of him at Concordia so it's hard for me to have much of an opinion. I just didn't expect a combine performance that seemed like it came out of nowhere to have so much bearing. But if his game film got a closer look after that performance, maybe he's worthy of the jump.
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Glad to see Goosen dropping, it's something that was bound to happen. Personally, I don't see him in the discussion for the 2nd overall.
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Considering how porous the O-line was for the past couple of years, we gotta go with the big horses.
That's actually why I picked Coombs... Maybe a bit far-fetched, but he gives us at least the option to start with a line of January-Greaves-Saulsberry-Pencer-Jones
The content on our OL looks so bad right now, that I would sacrifice a bit of the run game (although Coombs is no slouch)
Picking Coombs give us someone to contribute mainingfully right away while buying us time for Pencer et al to develop
Then again, if they pick Goossen, I'm not going to flip out.
If you think Coombs is going to step in to the CFL and become a feature back as a rookie Canadian, you are going to be sorely disappointed. I really like Coombs and he's got some solid potential, but he's not going to be a precedent setter at the Canadian RB spot.
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It's incredibly unreasonable. And I'm a Kane fan.
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Off the wall zany and a guru of his position..... that seemed to work wonders when Kelly did the same thing with his zany offense.....
Hopefully O'Shea takes over by the end of the year and hopefully Etch isn't locked in for more then 1 season...
You sure do love jumping the gun.
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Jason Barnes ... pretty good pedigree. College teammates with Marty Markett at South Carolina. Good size for a receiver in this league. I'm intrigued.
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It was annoying as hell having Burke flip flop every week on who the starter will be.There's something to be said for instilling confidence in a guy by letting him know what his job will be in June, so he can just go ahead and prepare for that. Also something to be said for not having any swirling controversy going into the season. Everyone knows where they stand...now go do your job.
It only makes sense that we have a clear direction. Willy will be fine and I'm sure it can't be any worse then Goltz and his 110 yards per game...
But shouldn't the 'best' guy start? I'm just asking, what IF you've got somebody that is just better?
I'll start off by saying that it's always going to be a little bit difficult to understand when you're so deeply invested in one of the horses in the race, but in pro football ... the #4 guy doesn't become the #1 guy overnight. It just doesn't happen.
Marve could go into camp, be lights out and look like the consensus best QB out of the four. And he still wouldn't start week one.
Understood, but, if you've got a guy that can improve, at what point do you give him a shot. Aye...I've never seen this starter play and yes I'm biased......just wondering, that's all.
You give him a shot when he's ready. And the reality is that unless he's going to come in and be a "once in a generation" kind of talent, he won't be ready for at least a year. Probably two or three.
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It was annoying as hell having Burke flip flop every week on who the starter will be.There's something to be said for instilling confidence in a guy by letting him know what his job will be in June, so he can just go ahead and prepare for that. Also something to be said for not having any swirling controversy going into the season. Everyone knows where they stand...now go do your job.
It only makes sense that we have a clear direction. Willy will be fine and I'm sure it can't be any worse then Goltz and his 110 yards per game...
But shouldn't the 'best' guy start? I'm just asking, what IF you've got somebody that is just better?
I'll start off by saying that it's always going to be a little bit difficult to understand when you're so deeply invested in one of the horses in the race, but in pro football ... the #4 guy doesn't become the #1 guy overnight. It just doesn't happen.
Marve could go into camp, be lights out and look like the consensus best QB out of the four. And he still wouldn't start week one.
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Brett Carter isn't slipping back into the draft. Such a thing is not possible.
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For the love of god can we please just release Terriss Paliwoda already?
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Well, here's the Etcheverry influence.
Former Maryland safety and wide receiver Kenny Tate, who we've all been viewing as an option at one of the linebacker spots is listed as a "rover" and is taking mostly defensive line reps. Leon Williams doing the same thing.
can you explain a bit that 'rover' position in Etch's D? is it the same to the 'jack' position in Burke's D?
It's a term open to definition, it can mean any number of things but in Etcheverry's defense, it basically means a guy who could line up almost anywhere on any given play. Obviously there's more of a science to it with him, but I've given up trying to understand.
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Well, here's the Etcheverry influence.
Former Maryland safety and wide receiver Kenny Tate, who we've all been viewing as an option at one of the linebacker spots is listed as a "rover" and is taking mostly defensive line reps. Leon Williams doing the same thing.
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Marve looking good today again.
Apparently CJ Tarver is having a strong showing too, which is interesting to me because he's worked out for them about two or three times by now and has yet to be offered a deal. Yet one of his teammates who plays the same position (Austin Coleman) earned a deal based off the Saginaw tryout and from what I've heard, has been completely underwhelming so far this camp.
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What a lunatic.
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I'm talking flood Brandon. Water coming thru the roof causing significant damage enough to close the place down. It would be news.
But there wasn't water coming through the roof that caused any kind of damage resulting in a facility shutdown ...
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Kirk Penton mentioned in his column that two kickers will be reporting to mini camp today
QB Brian Brohm and REC Mario Urrutia also showed up today.
Standouts as per ...
Penton: Receivers Antonio Robinson, Jaymar Johnson and Willie Haulstead. defensive backs Stephon Morris, Bruce Johnson and Cyhl Quarles
Irving: Receivers Jaymar Johnson and Willie Haulstead, returner CJ Tarver, defensive backs Stephon Morris and Bruce Johnson
Bauming: Receivers Willie Haulstead and Quentin Sims, quarterback Rob Marve
Wiecek: busy reporting on curling, apparently
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He's actually working out Tuesday now. No idea why the switch.
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Kirk Penton says Rob Marve was the best QB today.
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Are you at mini camp in Bradenton?Jeff Richards reminds me of Johnny Sears.
Nope, just relaying some reports. The Richards comment was based off some of the film I saw (not from today)
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If Austin Coleman can catch and learn the waggle could be a very dangerous guy in the slot.
2 drops in the PM session today
Final Scouting Bureau Rankings
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Put it this way ... how accurate is the list when you're essentially asking 9 teams to rank the players they're going to be fighting over in less than a month?