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He's the receiver with NFL exp. we signed apparently. Gotta say I'm interested in this signing.
Definitely not a move I expected Walters to make. Big splash, whether it pays of for not, it's certainly an interesting move.
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, didn't see anything on Twitter and I'm just posting from my phone before bed.
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So, why is an interim President who may only be here for the next 3 months interfering in the process? Where does Miller get off saying that no matter what, Walters stays??? What if a new GM wants to bring in his own assistant? He'll be handcuffed. Then what? That's why I think the impression that the Bombers will be doing an actual search for a President & GM is bogus. They've got their guys now. Miller will become the permanent President & Walters the permanent GM. Decision's been made. Just the Bombers don't dare tell the fanbase yet because of the backlash.
In the world of Iso.
What's it like being so angry and bitter all the time?
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BUCK UP
Burke was happy with quarterback Buck Pierce's play on Saturday, even though he completed only 12 of 20 attempts for 92 yards and one interception that Dee Webb returned for a touchdown.
"I wish he could take away the interception," Burke said. "Other than that he scrambled around and kept our plays alive. I was unhappy when he got hurt and he was out, I'll put it that way."
Pierce gave way to Justin Goltz after three quarters due to an upper-body injury, although he also appeared to be limping on his left leg. It marked the 29th time in Pierce's career he had to leave a game due to injury.
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Firing Burke is just a foregone conclusion. Burke is here in body only, his mind and soul left weeks ago.
you can tell he knows it by all the excuse making he's done since Mack was fired. The whole "crowton is picking qbs" to "doing the best with that I have" and all the rest. He's a dead man walking desperately trying to save his own hide while the team crumbles around him. How long until the players give up completely if they haven't already? How ugly is THAT going to be?
Wait, you think they haven't?
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Anything to get Burke out.
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For everyone who says there's nobody to replace Burke ...
I'd give the job to Walters for the rest of the year.
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Yes mike by Buck didn't suck. Post game show guys agree. He was under fire all night. At this point QB is going to have success or last very long on this team.
I was disappointed buck wasn't better but when you have four guys in your face all night what can you do.
Goltz looks worse. We really are starting from scratch. Two games hall gets hurt. This team is jinxed.
As soon as the first guy out of the tunnel to open IGF fell, we were done.
You have got to be kidding me.
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Lasted a lot longer than max hall
Just out of curiosity, didn't you tell us earlier in the week that if Buck sucked, you'd be off the bandwagon?
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With fatso probably out for the year, and Cornish out with a thigh injury, I like Toronto's chances.
Of course, I also thought BC would win easily yesterday...so...yep.
that's how i figure it...
hopping my train soon... Mark H, see you there... my mobile# is in your PM box
Somebody save this post as evidence if we never hear from Mark again.
I can already see the headlines ...
"Bomber fan beaten by entire Argonauts fanbase; one man arrested"
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Aaron Maybin, you mean.
I'm a huge Bengals fan, so I love it.
PS ... Maybin is on Winnipeg's negotiation list.
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In other news, Rene Stephan will actually dress for his second consecutive game without breaking several bones.
Congratulations Rene!
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Oh, and Pierce was already on the 46. He'll draw into the 42 but the guy coming on the roster for Gilmore is Harris.
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I don't know why, but I expected more changes than this.
Also worth pointing out ... Denmark at SB / Etienne at WR
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It really is just logic.
I'm not grabbing facts to fit into what I think happened, I'm letting the facts write the story for me and it's the only logical conclusion worth coming to when you stack ALL the information up.
FACT - A bidding war for Reilly = more money for Reilly
FACT - Reilly opted to not wait for a bidding war
WHY? He wanted to go to Edmonton
FACT - Buono let Edmonton talk to Reilly
WHY? He knew if they reached a deal with him, the return on his side would be greater
FACT - Buono negotiated with Winnipeg
FACT - Buono did not let Winnipeg talk to Reilly
WHY? He knew negotiating with more than one team would increase his return. He also knew if Winnipeg spoke to Reilly, they would no longer be interested in negotiating because Reilly appeared to have no interest in coming here.
It's not difficult to see that this was just a brilliant move by Buono, awful move by Hervey and an intelligent, yet unfortunate move by Mack.
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I always said it was never about what you had to give up for Mike Reilly. First rounder? A first and a third A second and a third? Meaningless.
It was always about whether you thought Mike Reilly could be your QB for the next 5-10 years. Because if so, he's worth all of the above and more.
But is it worth that just for the chance to talk to him? 'Cause there's no guarantees that he'd sign. It was JUST the rights to talk to him...
Can't argue with that. I guess you would need to make sure you've done your due dilegence (tampering) so that you knew he would be willing to sign with you.
Now, somebody is going to jump in and say no way he was signing here no matter what. Which I don't believe but I'm not going to argue anymore because it's been argued to death and it's hypothetical anyway.
Just out of curiosity ...
In your opinion, how much diligence is due? I mean, to me, it's an obvious red flag when Wally says "Edmonton is allowed to talk to him, but Winnipeg isn't"
Why isn't Winnipeg? The obvious answer to me is that Wally knew we wouldn't like what Reilly's agent had to say.
See I don't see it quite that way.
I think Edmonton said we want to trade for Reily and Wally said "ok but you can't talk to him" and Edmonton said, "Well then get stuffed" and then they negotiated and something got worked out.
I think Winnipeg said we want to trade for Reily and Wally said ok but you can't talk to him and Winnipeg said "We can't get Reilly which is ok because we can find someone better ourselves anyway."
It never made sense to me that Wally said Edmonton can talk to him and Winnipeg can't. And that Edmonton has to give us a 2nd and 3rd and Winnipeg has to give us a 1st and 3rd. I believe Wally opened negotiations with both teams at the same place and Winnipeg walked away and told everyone they couldn't get him and Edmonton kept at it and got him. For better or worse.
Okay.
Please explain why Wally would not let ANYBODY talk to him. All it could do is increase the return he could get in a trade.
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I always said it was never about what you had to give up for Mike Reilly. First rounder? A first and a third A second and a third? Meaningless.
It was always about whether you thought Mike Reilly could be your QB for the next 5-10 years. Because if so, he's worth all of the above and more.
But is it worth that just for the chance to talk to him? 'Cause there's no guarantees that he'd sign. It was JUST the rights to talk to him...
Can't argue with that. I guess you would need to make sure you've done your due dilegence (tampering) so that you knew he would be willing to sign with you.
Now, somebody is going to jump in and say no way he was signing here no matter what. Which I don't believe but I'm not going to argue anymore because it's been argued to death and it's hypothetical anyway.
Just out of curiosity ...
In your opinion, how much diligence is due? I mean, to me, it's an obvious red flag when Wally says "Edmonton is allowed to talk to him, but Winnipeg isn't"
Why isn't Winnipeg? The obvious answer to me is that Wally knew we wouldn't like what Reilly's agent had to say.
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Very good article by Wiecek.
I like what I see from Walters so far.
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Edmonton did not have a1st rounder to trade.
BC got an offer from Edmonton for an asset they were going to lose.
BC simply tried to get more for Reilly through Wpg. (swap picks plus another pick)
BC had nothing to lose.
Nobody can adequately explain why Reilly wouldn't wait 2 weeks to optimize his deal.
I think it's pretty clear cut why Reilly would take the deal and run... he was only ever going to have an opportunity to start here or in EDM.
That's exactly the point...Reilly wasn't going anywhere but Edmonton. He had made up his mind.
Way to cherry pick my posts to make your point. If Reilly got to free agency, he was going to the highest bidder with the best starting opportunity. Wally Buono is not in the business of making sweetheart deals... he could give a f*** less where Reilly wanted to go. Wally's only interested in getting a return for something that 2 days later would bring him nothing... and if WPG and EDM were equal, he was dealing the negotiating rights to WPG, because he'd be dealing Reilly out of his division. He just got the best deal from EDM. There's nothing more to it than that. Supply and command, Ricky.
If Reilly got to Free Agency, I would agree with your point. But he didn't, and Buono made the best deal for Buono... you can guarantee that Reilly's preference played exactly 0% into where Buono would have dealt him.
I don't agree.
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All that does is bring us back to Crowton at the controls. I could throw up that was Buck was 'good enough' to get us to the GC game in 2011 with Barresi/Lapo.
This argument will never resolve because there is no 'bad guy'.
well except that PIerce wasn't good enough... They won the east final on the strength of the defense and running game. What did Pierce do in the Grey Cup game other than suck balls until garbage time? The thing that no one backing Pierce seems to want to address is that his struggles are not a new thing, he's been going downhill every since 2010 at the earliest and partway through 2011 at the latest.
Good lord, he was good enough to beat Glenn that day 19 - 3, now you're just looking foolish.
Who exactly looks foolish?
Glenn was 13-18 in that game, much better than Buck's 16-28 with 1 INT.
Or I suppose we should blame Glenn for having his ankle rolled on the first play of the second half.
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Oh and just so everyone is aware ... we were never giving up a first rounder to get Reilly.
We were swapping firsts and giving up a third.
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