Mike

It still doesn't make sense. By process of elimination, you can't rationally justify giving a guy a vote for MOP if you don't even believe he was the best at his position.

Farhan's vote doesn't even make sense. You think Adams was the most outstanding player but you don't even give him your all-star vote?

I 100% feel that way, there’s not a head coach in the league I would trade him for. Doesn’t mean I agree with some of what he does, especially when it comes to roster decisions or in-game decisions.

Move the goalposts again lol you told me I couldn’t name one guy in ten years and I named eight in two seasons on two teams without even really thinking about it for more than five minutes and now you’re going to claim that’s the extent of the list so you can throw out some bullshit percentages? This is the stuff I’m talking about, you’re just so blind to the reality of the situation because you’re dead set on defending our team at all costs.

This right here tells me it’s no wonder your perception of our practice roster is so warped … if you can’t name a single player, no wonder you think the way we use our practice roster is fine. I’ll just use BC and Toronto over the past few years as examples, because those are the only teams I really worry about. Jalon Edwards-Cooper, Manny Rugamba, Alex Hollins, Keon Hatcher, Brandon Barlow, Damonte Coxie, Dewayne Hendrix, Jonathan Jones … off the top of my head in the past two years

And one of them is Jake Thomas lol

And if we were actually managing things properly, you wouldn’t have to jump through so many hoops to try and explain what the team is doing. Our practice roster has been mismanaged all year. Same as last year. Maybe if we didn’t waste spots on guys who were never going to make the roster, we could’ve brought in guys who actually had a shot at contributing and let them spend the year here getting up to speed on things. Maybe we could actually try developing a guy, giving him time to practice with the team so that if the opportunity presented itself, they’d be ready. I understand there’s this desire to defend every aspect of our team, but our overall approach to team building this year has been very poor. It’s one of two things, and there’s no amount of you defending the team or Noeller screaming about how we don’t know everything happening behind the scenes that can make it any different - either our scouts suddenly for the first team in their tenure here did a terrible job this year or our coach and our scouts aren’t exactly seeing eye to eye

Lmao at everyone overreacting to a comment. By viable replacement, I meant “maybe a guy who is actually a receiver”, not a proven all star.

I mean it’s true. Although I will admit I’m glad they at least trimmed a lot of the fat recently, but our PR is still very poorly used.

Classic lol another player hurt and we’re yet again going to have no viable replacement for him on our practice roster

Brady is going to easily reach 2000 yards this season

Except when I’m drunk on gameday but that doesn’t count

It’s kind of funny to me how you spent the first few games of the year belittling anyone who had a problem with anything, then after we had a few ugly games, you were basically acting as if our run of success was over and you had no confidence anymore, but now you’re the one talking about others going overboard. I’ve been pretty even keel with it all year. Our roster management sucks and I’m not worried about the results changing my mind. I’m worried about the fact that our results could be so much better if we did things a little differently.

Our PR use is a joke and continues to be a joke. We had Deng on our neg list for over a year. You bring him in and cut him within a week? What the **** are your scouts doing if you neg list a guy and then cut him without even a training camp or a live rep?

Kuony Deng is a player I’ve been excited about since I heard he was on their negotiation list. You can do a lot of things with a guy like that, he’s got good edge rushing ability but he’s also an unbelievable tackler in open space … I think his numbers his best year at Cal were like 110 tackles in 13 games or something.

There are simply adjustments that aren’t being made and something needs to be done about it. We need the staff to have a long, hard look at what happens within their offices because I see so many deficiencies that are coming directly from our coaching staff. There’s not much that they’re doing right now that I care for - the preparation, execution and player management is all leaving a ton to be desired and they’re smart enough to realize it. How are they going to address it?

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m genuinely curious. What am I missing because I don’t understand what he’s doing for our team that makes it better right now

I mean, he doesn't call the plays, he doesn't seem to be an effective in-game tactician, he doesn't manage the roster properly, he doesn’t make solid choices with regards to taking the ball/field position, he doesn’t seem to be consistently getting the team ready to play … what DOES he do?

Serious question I’d love to see discussed here: what does Mike O’Shea actually do to contribute to this team on gameday right now?

Can you guys imagine how many more points we would’ve scored if we dressed Haba? hehe

I think Streveler is back next year when Dru walks in free agency. Then we can move on from Prukop, have an eye towards the future when Collaros walks and get everything sorted out kind of all in one. Streveler didn’t leave as a starting caliber QB but I would not be surprised if he returned as one

I would also like to go a day without complaining about the roster management. If only the coach would do something so I could stop complaining.

I would be surprised if Walters (probably more so Danny Mac or Ted) aren’t maybe a little frustrated. All that work scouting in the off-season really not getting much chance to show off in season this year.

No coach I’d rather have than O’Shea, but I’m with Booch … his roster management is horrendous. I’m not concerned with how good we’re doing, I’m concerned with how we could be doing so much better. It’s almost comical in a way because everything that Booch and I have been saying all year is more or less exactly what has happened, but people still want to make excuses for it. We said key injuries with improper use of the practice roster will lead to us not being able to replace guys adequately - look at Janarion Grant. We said not having a proper rotation on the DL will gas Willie/Jeffcoat - they haven’t had a sack in forever and are visibly gassed. We said rostering a bunch of special teams bodies in lieu of some actual defensive depth may cost us a game down the road - look at how gassed our D was in Ottawa, even if you want to put the blame for the L in other areas. This roster management has been atrocious all year. Do I want O’Shea fired? No. Do I want someone to tell him that he needs to wake up and start doing a better job of it? Yes please. And don’t start up with this “he knows more about football than we could ever know” stuff, there’s a reason every single head coach gets fired at some point and it’s because they’re people just like us - with weak points, biases and blind spots that affect them just as they affect other human beings.

Haba to the PR is absolutely ****** brain dead