Mark H.

Maybe the vaccine turns out to be one that is only given to older people - or maybe people will need a booster shot when they're older. But I do think, based on the stats and information we now have, that the approach to Covid 19 will change. Eg. I don't think schools will be completely closed again, but procedures will change and we might see a blend of remote and on - site learning. One thing that does bother me in all of this, is the people who find ways to take advantage. Eg. they are 'isolating at their cabin' and require 6 weeks worth of school work for their child.

Merely citing the opinion of the individual you’re defending.

Please allow me to explain: Knock, knock Who’s there? KGB. KGB who? Stop - ve ask duh questions.

I am referring to being anti - vax in general. As in, not even taking polio vaccine. I have no patience for that kind of thinking.

Anti - vax rhetoric deserves to be shouted down.

Definitely. In our school, washing your hands when you arrive and when you leave is going to become a firm policy.

I wish that were the case - but it isn't.

Do you know any Americans? They don't change their votes easily.

And - he could still win the next election.

Mr. Burns was cackling somewhere...

In the video thread and most likely the U.S. politics thread.

I agree with Jay, but if you want a third option, a fire pit with a good quality grill is hard to beat. Once you get a feel for how to grill with wood coals, there will be no going back. Ash is the best grilling wood. Oak is fine too, but it gives the meat a stronger flavour that not everyone prefers. And all you need for cleaning is your garden hose & some steel wool.

Kick his ash if he doesn’t show himself out.

Exactly this. I think it was their anti - immigrant / refugee stance, that finally cost them Mr. Adler’s support.

Of late - Charles Adler has become downright respectable.

Sure, he’s not helping the situation, but this happens about every 4 - 5 years down south.

When you’re Republican, they probably are! This still the same media who said he had no chance of becoming President - he is about as vindictive as they come.

To be clear, I am not defending Trump, I am the last guy who would do that. But most of this is not on Trump, it is a long - standing U.S. issue. Let’s not forget the riots in St. Louis - during Obama’s tenure. Blaming a president is an oversimplification of a deeply rooted and complex issue.

Clarified earlier in the thread - he means Americans

“No longer necessary” is not the same as taking a more relaxed approach from the start.

And your plan was to do nothing, somehow identify and isolate everyone who's vulnerable, and then wait for herd immunity to develop. This is a new virus - how could officials KNOW FOR SURE who the most vulnerable people were? Some pandemics have killed many young and healthy individuals. But there was no way to predict (in the early going, maybe not even now) precisely who the vulnerable segments of the population were. You point to some segments as being statistically insignificant - but you forget that those statistics were not available a few months ago. The Spanish flu is the classic example of what can happen if you go the herd immunity route - most governments in 2020 just could not take that risk.

True - it’s 356K

Gotcha - makes sense.

50 million people died from the Spanish Flu world wide - or do you mean 500 000 Americans?

It always was a farce, anyway.