Mark H.

'We will work harder'

The max protect schemes worked for Montreal because: a) They had a QB who could throw into tight coverage effectively The running game was effective enough to keep the D off balance I think focussing on the max protect idea is wrong.. the real concerning things to me would be the lack of moving the pocket, the lack of slide protections all that kind of thing. When you basically tell the OL to just catch the incoming rushers (which is the impression I get from the article) you're just making it harder on your OL and easier on the guys rushing the qb. Change it up, throw the D off balance. That seems like a big part of the problem with the offense lately to be honest, no one is fooled they know exactly what is coming. Was a problem with Bellefeuille in all his other stops too. He was very vanilla and it was predictable and easier to stop if the talent didn't just out skill their opponents. Well yes...I know they weren't running only max protect schemes...but it undoubtedly was their base offense.

Those comments should give O-Shea some cause for concern, at the very least.

The max protect schemes worked for Montreal because: a) They had a QB who could throw into tight coverage effectively The running game was effective enough to keep the D off balance

Chris Randle. If he'd played a full season - Ian Wild

Oh no, he can't do any of that; all he can do is orchestrate a scoring drive and throw a 27 yard TD on third down to win the game.

Someone said Willy's protection has been similar to Mitchell's this year. Sorry, but I just can't give a comment like that too much respect

Collaros had rough start to the season, Willy is not having a good finish. Both QBs are a victim of circumstances to a certain extent

Yes, but points of view can be expressed without throwing our developing franchise QB under the bus. Just look at Reilly with the Esks last year compared to this year.

I'm assuming this comment is directed at me... I never said Willy sucks. I said he's been awful in the second half of the season, which is 100% true. Based on this downward spiral he's been in, I'm fairly confident that Marve gives us a better chance to win at this point. Furthermore, my belief that Marve is a capable quarterback stems from more than just one quarter of football. He evidently has potential, as shown in mini-camp, in preseason, in practice, and again in limited regular season action. He could stand to gain some experience, and as such, I'm somewhat disconcerted in O'Shea's decision to start Willy this week. It was directed at no one in particular. A young QB with little experience, on whom the opposition now has some film and can game plan against him. I'm not an expert by any means, but I think Calgary would draw up a plan that forces him to stay in the pocket. Do really think a team with a good defense and solid coaching would him let ad-lib the way he did? Don't you remember what happened when Buck was forced to stay in the pocket?

At least...the conversation has gone from 'Willy sucks and needs to sit' to 'Willy should sit because he's hurt and Marve could use some experience.' But to say that Marve gives us a better chance to win because of one half of garbage time...is just not even worth commenting on.

Yep, BC didn't cover our receivers or anything like that. They don't have the best pass D in the league either...nothing like that... Yes, BC has the #1 pass defence in the league, and are #4 against the run….AND, 2nd best defence overall. They had good coverage, especially in the 2nd half. Having said that…. USABFan (metric version) brought up a good point in post #73, and that is : "there should at least be some kind of safety valve player to get the ball to" 10 sacks. They are not all on the O-Line, they get blame, of course, and Willy had chances to throw the ball away, but our OC chooses to have Cotton brush block instead of he, or the FB, slipping out for a safety valve for Willy to throw to. It's got to be a better offensive alternative to what we've seen. That's one reason why people complain about the OC…he doesn't adapt his game plan to make it easier for Willy to DUMP the BALL, when he's in trouble. If it's good enough for every other QB, why don't we see it more? Indeed. And have a slotback run a crossing route or curl if the RB is staying in to block. I completely agree, I had a good view of most of those sacks. Only 2 - 3 were on the OL.

Can't be sure of that until he gets significant playing time. The chances of it happening are very good...as many of you well know.

Three step drop all day...Willy can be as flat-footed as he likes...

I don't have a prob with so called career politicians. They are elected by the people. If the people think its time to move on they vote them out. Too true. Our local school trustee looked like he'd keep winning his seat until he retired. A lady who volunteers in the schools decided to run against him. She ran an excellent campaign and lost by only 35 votes last election. This time around she beat him by a by over 300 votes.

Yep, BC didn't cover our receivers or anything like that. They don't have the best pass D in the league either...nothing like that...

Anyone whose watched football for a few years should know that Marve will probably struggle when teams have watched tape and game planned for his tendencies.

I watched the OL closely last night. They got beaten a few times, but overall they had an above average game.

Willy had time to chuck the ball downfield on the last play. By the time he got sacked a couple of receivers were already standing still in the endzone.

Remember the 30 yarder that he missed...that was actually a tipping point in the game. With those 2 points (he kicked a single) they can kick the convert after the last TD and be down by two points instead of 5 at the end of the game.

It may be that...you never can tell with server rebellion...

Anyone know anything about donating toys at the game tonight?

There's lies, damn lies, and statistics...

I think that's a fair comment. Judy was done as soon as it became clear that Steeves wasn't going to be a factor in splitting the vote.

There's more this than you think. Islamic extremists do not just occur by random chance. There are schools in the middle east where these people are trained. Trained to be violent and trained to have a very narrow world view. Does that have anything to do with the shootings in Ottawa? Maybe not. Does Canada need to be on the alert? You better believe it. But it's really not Islam, the truth is it's the consequences of Colonialism. The Middle East is fighting back,using the Islamic religion as their vehicle for doing so.