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Folks minds are blown when I like a signing? Where were these when I liked all the other signings except Hall and Durant?

PLAP loves to feed the ball to one guy for entire games. Sometimes it will be Bowman instead of Adams, Dressler or Harris. I'll take a few more Int's if it results in a few more big plays, deep to Bowman.

I like this signing, especially for $140K. Bowman's a proven big, deep threat, receiver who is way better than Denmark who he is replacing. He'll drop a couple a game and we need to feed him the ball a lot, especially right after a drop. Adams, Bowman, Dressler, Young Guy, NI are a pretty good receiving corps. If Nichols finds his deep ball accuracy, we should be able to score from anywhere on the field.

I'm not saying that LeFevour is any good or that we should have kept him or that we even should have signed him in the first place (Last off season's I hate this signing argument) or that he is an upgrade over Durant. I doubt anyone would say that. So no, that's not the argument. That's the big question. If Durant can get back to anywhere near where he was in 2013/14 (Very slim possibility to me) then he'll be a good signing, assuming that we need him for more than a game or two. You're right about me cheering for him when he gets in. I'd rather be wrong about Durant than right now that we've signed him.

Sorry, I actually did miss it. Durant was part of the problem in Montreal, not part of the solution. He himself said that he needed to play better and stayed in Montreal on a bye week to go thru every pass he'd made up until that time. Didn't help, tho. He still came out and played badly after that. FTR: He was part of the Riders problems in 2016 too. Everyone was talking about it last year, from sports casters to fans in forums. I'd guess if we hadn't signed Durant ourselves, that most on this forum would say he's done.

Everything is the Bombers do is wrong? This is the first off season move that I really dislike. I questioned re-signing Wild due to injury concerns and Nevis because he is expensive and was outplayed by the much cheaper Johnson, but I loved re-signing Randle and Bryant and I didn't complain about any of the other off season moves, but that doesn't matter cuz mbrg gotta mbrg. As for Cato being lucky... you bet he was, and I never suggested he wasn't, but that's not the only way to judge a QB. I didn't say he was my #1 choice . That would be Adams from the Riders. I didn't suggest that either of them were to complete for the #1 job against Nichols, so what you really want to look at is how Cato compares to Davis/LeFevour. Cato threw for almost 10 times as many yards (3570) in his 2 year career than Davis (377) in his 3 year career and more than LeFevour (2620) in his 5 year career. He's only 25 and he has more playing time than Davis(28)/LeFevour(30) combined. Durant peaked yards wise in 2010 and hasn't played a full season since then. His Eff Rating was 93.3 in 2016 which is below most of the other starters including Cato and Jennings. Willy was the only starting QB below him. Durant's Eff Rating in 2017 was even worse at 85.1. Jennings and Collaros were the only 2 starters below him. I'll be very surprised if Durant turns it around this year, but luckily we don't need him to be #1 unless Nichols goes down.

Actually, the Riders won 1 more playoff game than the Bombers last year.... 31-20 over Ottawa.

IIRC the last good QB we brought into the league was Danny MacManus back in the '80's, so I've got no problems taking other teams cast offs.

Agree to disagree then. I think Durant's done and has been for a while. You think he still has what it takes to win games. You'd rather use the SMS on a vet backup QB. I'd rather use it on Bond or Westerman.

When you make stuff up and pretend it's the truth. I think Donald Trump and his fake news. FTR: I was ecstatic that we got something for Willy and that we signed Glenn, an experienced backup QB. I didn't like the LeFevour signing and he's not a vet QB. I don't like the Durant signing and my biggest criticism of the last couple of years has been starting Hurl at MLB. A 3rd round pick would likely get it done. 1. See last comment. To add to it... Adams is their 3rd string QB who probably wants out. Jones just paid a ton for his top 2 QB's, so he's likely to want to get rid of Adams and would be happy to trade him for very little in return unless multiple teams are bidding and I don't think will happen. 2. Yup. I'd rather have a guy with some upside than one who is living off of their past accomplishments and is most likely done like dinner. 3. Don't care how old a QB on a 1 year contract is. I prefer Glenn because he played better last year than Durant did. I don't have contract details, but I'd guess that Durant and Glenn are making similar salaries this year. I'm not suggesting that LeFevour or Davis can get the job done if Nichols goes down. I'm suggesting that Durant won't be able to get the job done if Nichols goes down and that's the backup QB's job.

I'd trade with the Riders for Vernon Adams, who should be cheap as the 3rd man on their QB chart. If that didn't work out, I'd call Cato and see if he's grown up yet. Both of those guys have upside, are young and have shown flashes of having what it takes to win in the CFL. If I wanted to go with an aging vet, which I don't because it would create the same SMS issue, I'd take Glenn over Durant for the same $.

Durant, who had options, didn't sign with Winnipeg for the same as LeFevour, who no one else wanted, unless we were vastly overpaying LeFevour. We still need a 3rd and 4th string QB, so there is no offset for Davis' salary, just LeFevour's. Durant was far from competent last year. Glenn, who most around here hate, outplayed him. Durant was far from competent the year before, so Jones replaced him with Glenn. It's not realistic to assume that Durant will suddenly become competent again this year. Durant is a former great QB who hasn't been the same since he got injured against us without taking a hit. Folks around here are remembering what he was when they say that he's a great backup QB. He's a vet on his way down, who is still better than LeFevour but, that's about all he is these days.

If we signed Durant in his prime, I'd love this move and expect him win the battle for #1 QB, but that's not who we signed. We signed Durant who hasn't looked good for at least a couple of years now. Durant who won a couple or three games last year. Durant who was widely inaccurate missing wide open receivers. Durant who was replaced by Drew Freakn' Willy when he couldn't get the job done. We are now way more expensive at the QB spot. Does that cost us one of our FA's or a new FA who could be a difference maker? At the very least, it tightens up our SMS room. Backup QB's cost us one game last year. How many games did our MLB or two rookie DB's or below average receiving corps cost us?

Excellent signing. Glad to Randle back.

I'd look into trading for Adams. Riders have spent a bunch of $$$ on QB's. They should be happy to get rid of their #3 (Adams) for very little. As we can't seem to find a QB on our own, it would be worth it.

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I don't think it's a bluff. Montreal isn't going to pay Durant his bonus and there's no where else in the league where he'll get starters money. Heck... There's no other team who is even looking for a starter.

My take: No additional time outs. The game is slow enough as it is and we don't need any more stoppages. The challenge system as it was changed mid-season is working exactly as it should. It speeds up the games and it gets rid of the egregiously bad calls. It was never meant for fishing expeditions or to change every perceived mistake made by the refs. There's nothing the matter with the current safety rules. It's a coaches decision if he wants to give up 2 to try and save the 3 or 7. There are enough players on the sidelines already. No need to make any changes there. No need to add Canadians either as their aren't enough good ones to go around right now. In fact, I'd reduce the number of NI's on each team by 1 (The worst guy on each team that no one but his family would miss) and add an extra DI. Rule changes I'd like: No single point on balls kicked through the end zone. That just rewards failure. I'd keep the 1 point if the ball stays in the end zone to get the run backs that are so exciting. Designate all NI's as NI's, including QB's. Yup it means some teams, not named the Bombers, get an advantage of an additional DI. If we want that too, we can always sign an NI QB.

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Early in this thread. Hall's got to go. Most everyone agrees. The Bombers keep Hall and get rid of some coaches. Now we get 'Everyone should have faith in the guys who make the decisions so it's OK that we kept Hall' and 'It was the other coaches and players who've been at fault since Hall came here, but firing them isn't throwing them under the bus' and my personal favorite 'O'Shea taking more interest in the D will turn it around'. Folks who don't agree are just Hall haters, don't know what they are talking about and are making claims without saying IMHO first. Typical off season so far.

Hate's a strong word, but I hate this move. More of the same for 2018. Better find ourselves a couple of good receivers, cuz we'll need to score 30+ to win.

What experienced MLB would want to sign in Winnipeg to become simply a 'hole filler in Halls D'?

If Collaros tries to hold out for his $200K bonus, he'll be cut a day before it's due. He'll have to renegotiate if he wants a chance to start this year. I suspect the numbers have already been decided on and we will see a new contract story sometime soon. I'd offer him his $200K bonus and another $150-200K in salary/bonuses for the season. Big risk on this trade, but that's what Jones is all about. IF Collaros gets back to his former self, then it will be a steal and the RIders will have their QB of the future RFN. If Collaros continues to 'Willy', which is what I think will happen, then Bridge will have to step up and take the starting QB job or else the Riders are back to square one in the QB department.

All players are one hit away from their careers being finished. The buzz around Franklin is similar to the buzz around Reilly when the Eskimos signed him. No guarantee's, but it's a pretty good indicator that teams think that Franklin has what it takes.