TBURGESS

Fans making excuses for a cheap shot.

VAJ missed 6 or 7 deep balls. Completing just one of them turns this one from a loss to a win. VAJ also threw a stupid pick that took 3 points off the board at the end of the half. If the DB simply held onto the fumble, BC would have likely won. Riders on top of the west surprises everyone.

True they F'd up, but with 5 seconds on the clock, the V formation isn't a guarantee. Run the QB around and then throw the ball with a second left on the clock is the right play. Trying to whack the QB into the middle of next week after he threw the ball away is a cheap shot. I'm sure Bomber fans would agree if it was the Riders who tried to whack Collaros into next week with zero seconds on the clock.

5 seconds left is too long for V-form.

Pure revisionist BS made up story.

You should be ashamed of that opinion! The Riders couldn't just Victory Formation it. There were too many seconds left on the clock. It was a cheap shot. It was unnecessary. It was after the game was over. It was after the ball was thrown. It was childish. Knocking a QB into next week after the game is completely over should = A week off for Bighill. The CFL can't afford to lose QB's to stupid hits like that one.

The Argos and the Riders are playing with their backup QB's. Both look better than Collaros this year. Montreal will start playing with their backup QB next week. I bet they don't go 2-5 in the next 7 games. BC lost their top two receivers and haven't lost a step. We lose our top 2 and use that as an excuse for losing. Hamilton and Edmonton haven't won a game yet. Next week one of them will most likely be a single game behind us. If we lose 2 of our next 3, & I think that's probable, then it's time to dump the old guys who won't be around next year and give the youngsters the playing time. It's time to see what Streveler can do. It's time to bring in young guys to actually compete. It's time to bring in NFL cuts to compete. It's time to bring in the best young QB we can find and start the process.

If Streveler can't get it done this year, then we need to move on from both him & Collaros.

WOFO.. Win Or FO

I've always liked.. "The older I get, the better I was"

Riders are #1 against the rush & #9 against the pass. It the turn over ratio where they shine (#1 @ +8, with 16 TO's). We're #3 in rushing yards & #8 in passing yards, & #7 in turn over ratio @ -1. It's strength against strength and weakness against weakness. If they can force an extra turn over, they should win at home.

Streveler

The last kickoff was unforgivable but so was the missed 35 yard FG earlier in the game.

Note that BC was without Hatcher, Cottoy, & TJ Lee. They'll get better when they get those guys back.

Because it's not a fumble or a turn over. It's a -2 yard pass completion that really didn't matter because we got the 1st down on the next play. MOS made a mistake by challenging it. I was yelling at my TV because I knew where it would be spotted. If I knew, certainly MOS knew.

The call didn't have anything to do with a ******* turnover. Lets play your idea out. Whistle on a missed fumble call, redo the play. Whistle on a missed call on a catch, redo the play. Whistle on a missed call on an in or out of bounds, redo the play. It's only fair y'know.

Any time the whistle blows the play is dead even when the Refs get it wrong. It happens. Everything after that is exactly the way it should have been. You want a rule that says when the refs screw up then the teams get a do over? Good luck with that.

Have you ever seen a replayed down? I doubt it ever existed. The original call was wrong. The challenge was stupid. The ball was placed where it should have been. End of story.

The game we almost won & the game we did win were because of Strev, not Collaros.

Prukop

Hamilton's problem is defence not offence. They are middle of the pack on O scoring 24.8 per game, but they give up 33.8 a game, last in the CFL. BLM is 2nd in passing yards and first in passing TD's. He's not the problem this year.

You forgot special teams that are 'special' in wears a hockey helmet all the time kinda way.

He was a passer. I'd say the helmet was the primary point of contact, but I'm not sure it was the top of the helmet. Going to Article 5 – Roughing the Passer part g: clears it up. So yes, it should have been a penalty IMO.

From the rule book: Nothing about crown of the helmet BTW.

Streveler