TBURGESS

Surprise surprise the same people who are constantly nothing but positive see hope where there isn't any. We've already given O'Shea and Walters enough rope to hang themselves, and they did. Now we'll give them one more season to see if both of the first 2 seasons were flukes. The most likely outcome is we will have to make changes mid-season next year and that almost never works out. A new GM and HC would be stepping into a better situation now than Walters and O'Shea did. Mid season next year... not so much.

I'd love to be optimistic but I see no reason to believe that we are headed in the right direction. The stats don't show it. The history of the league doesn't show it. The wins don't show it. The team's preparation doesn't show it. The lack of fight in the last game doesn't show it. Regina was the only team that was worse than us this year. They're looking at good to great people from winning programs to turn themselves around... Hufnagel and Murphy from the Stamps and Chris Jones from Edmonton. We're looking at the same people who missed the playoffs 2 years in a row and got us to 8th place two years in a row to suddenly get better to turn us around. I don't believe that firing coaches who couldn't do the job were the wrong decisions when we did it except in Berry's case. I don't believe that firing HC's who couldn't cut it would hurt in hiring new coaches because it never has anywhere else in the league. I don't believe keeping the top 3 guys the same when we they haven't been able to make the playoffs or get out of 8th or beat any of the top 5 teams or even get 2 wins in a row for more than a year and a half is a good decision. I'd be all over the consistency argument if we were winning enough games to get into the playoffs, if we could beat any of the the top teams, if we were winning more games each year with the same group. That's the kind of consistency I'm looking for and this group hasn't gotten anywhere close to it.

Yesterday in the pregame show they said that Toronto might not be able to fit a full sized field in their new stadium so they're thinking of clipping the endzones off. Maybe that's what the new logo is supposed to show.

Nice to see a great GC game. Two very good teams battled it out for 60 minutes. Lots of big plays on offense and defense. Best game ever played at IGF IMO. Congrats to the Eskimos. They came back from 13 nothing early in the game to eek out a well deserved win. Just a great way to end the season.

As a member of the 55+ group who are the biggest number of CFL watchers... New Logo - No better than the old one. Worse actually. Just grey and black inside a clipped football with a little bit of red. It doesn't pop. New Tagline - I couldn't have told you what the old tagline was. I'll forget the new one soon after finishing this post. New Video - I'd rather have more actual great football plays with a 'Video Game' look than footballs in flames and throwing a ball through glass. I didn't like the music either but I know it's not aimed at me. I doubt it brings in any more young fans that the league needs, but if it does, then I'm all for it.

Reneging on a signed contract is worth suing about because you have a very good chance of winning. If there was a confirmation email then they don't have anywhere near as strong a case, the chances of winning are way lower and it may cost more to try and collect than it's worth. Sounds like the union is just trying to embarrass the Bombers to me, but then again I don't have all the facts.

Go back and read the posts again. I've already given a lists of who I'd like for GM, HC, and OC. The Westerman, Picard and Bryant signings are examples of positive posts where I agree with what the Bombers have done. Not sure what you expect to get out of calling me a liar. If it's an argument your looking for, move on. I'm not playing.

Huff isn't old and declining. He's one of the best GM/HC's in the league and has been for years. Murphy would be an inexperienced at GM but he's been an assist. GM in Calgary for 8 years and has provided a ton of talent to that club along the way and to ours in his 1 year. That's way more than Walters has accomplished and for a longer period of time. Both would be better choices than what we currently have. I so called 'dump on the Bombers' when they make bad decisions and they've made a ton of those over the last decade or so. Berry's been the only HC that they got right and I didn't 'dump' on him. In fact I was annoyed when they fired him and hired 'He who must not be named'. We've only had 1 winning season since then and it was due to a great 8 weeks early on. I'd be ecstatic if we hired people who knew what they were doing and who turned this team back into a top 3 team instead of a bottom 2 team.

Huff isn't the only upgrade over Walters. Murphy and others would be too. I doubt Walters could simply end his contract with the Bombers anyway unless he has an out for the Guelph job written in in the first place.

Dare to dream ISO. Dare to dream.

Yuuuuup! I'd bring in Huffer to do both jobs in a heartbeat. Then again, I'd replace Walters with Murphy and O'Shea with whoever Murphy thought would be good too.

PLAP eh? Not really surprised and not impressed. Not looking forward to vanilla offences and playing not to lose. Is the 3rd time really the charm? I wonder if he keeps some or all of the offensive coaches for continuity? That would certainly be easier and cheaper assuming they have already have contracts for next year. Another boring hire of a failed coach.

Spirit of Edmonton's usually one of the best parties in GC week. Have fun guys.

I know that Murphy's been the asst GM with Huff as the GM. What's changed is Huff is giving up the coaching part of his job which means Murphy will be doing a lot less of the GM job in Calgary next year. I don't see any need for Calgary to keep Murphy around now that Huff can devote all his time to the GM job.

Looks like Murphy's available now that Huff's moving upstairs. I'd prefer him over Walters and he won't be available next year assuming he's the Riders GM. Time to rethink our strategy of keeping Walters around?

He also probably wants to beat Hamilton. Not sure why people dislike him so much, even if he's had some bad games in big spots, he's one of the best players in league history, and seems like a good guy. even tells opposition players "good hit" and so on. also don't get the Ottawa hate. coaches seem like good guys, they obviously know what they're doing, not a dirty team. head scratcher. also one of Hamilton's best D lineman is out, I heard. Mostly sour grapes because we're not playing this week.

Randle is a great corner. Leggett's the better dime.

Welcome to the 1 year contract era. Most of the good ones will be re-signed by their own teams before they ever hit Free Agency.

You know what, I don't think it's are serious as all that. Yeah they didn't win a championship, but Milt Stegall (and the rest of the great players around when he was) made a lot of football fans in Winnipeg. Those are people in my age bracket (or just a bit below) who became fans watching one of the best players ever and they're in that age now where they are having families which likely passes the tradition of being a fan down. Sure there's probably not a lot of under 25s but really in the grand scheme of things that's not too big a deal. The thing gets turned around they'll jump on the band wagon too. No, I think burgess is blind. Every game ive been to has a ton of 20-25 year olds at them.. They are a well represented demographic. Younger adults as well, male and female. Not sure where burg gets his idea from. Maybe the younger ones are up in the deck due to cheapness.. I also want to point out that on game day, all I see are bomber jerseys and flags. At work. At the mall and big box stores.. There is no doubt in my mind that this team will not be leaving in 10,20 or 30 years. Lastly, I mentioned it in a different thread but fans of the jets and bombers suffer from anxiety and panic proneness. Its never as bad as the vocal minority seem to make it out to be. (Yes I realize its not sunshine and rainbows like others also try to convey) its very much inbetween somewhere the 2 rabid groups of fans. All I can see is the faces on TV and most of them look pretty damn old. Maybe the youngsters are at the rum hut or in the cheap seats so the TV cameras don't show them as much.

I don't see how any of the under 25 set are still Bomber fans. They've never seen a GC win. We've only been 1st twice since 1995 and out of the playoffs 11 times. That's a completely lost generation of Winnipeg football fans. Take a good close look at who's in the stands. On TV it looks like mostly 55+ with a lot of 70+ folks who are still there because they've always gone to games. A few more bad years and selling season tickets will be like pulling teeth. I suspect it's already there now.

Westerman certainly deserves it more and I think he'll win it but in this day and age, the 'story' often trumps everything. Sinopoli has a great back story. Canadian QB who got a shot with Calgary who changed positions to receiver to be able to play who then went 'home' to Ottawa to have his breakout year get 1000 yards helping to lead his team to first place in the east.

Big advantage to the ignore function is if you ignore enough posters, you can fool yourself into thinking that 'everyone' agrees with you. Some people put nothing but a positive spin on everything. When we sign someone they are the greatest signing ever no matter what kind of baggage they may bring with them. Every decision made by the current regime is good and everyone who's cut is garbage. Our record doesn't matter if it's bad because it can be wished away by blaming the refs or changing a few important plays during the game or explained away with 'what if' scenarios. I honestly think that if we missed the playoffs 4 years in a row they'd still want to keep the current regime, would only type about the good things and would complain about everyone who doesn't share their opinions. They start arguments about who's a better fan and call out other posters with 'Eat Crow' and 'I told you so' and 'See I was right all along' after wins or when under performing players have 1 good game. They often attack the posters instead of the post. They create a lot of arguments in the name of positivity almost forcing rebuttals. They contend that the so called negative posters wouldn't be happy with a good season followed by a grey cup, which is so far from the truth as to be laughable. The negativity stems from the poor play and poor records. All that being said, I haven't 'ignored' any posters. Seeing both sides of all things Bombers is important to discussion of the issues. An 'all things rainbows, lolipops and unicorns' wouldn't hold my interest any more than an 'all gloom and doom' would.

Hall had no other choices than Winnipeg if he wanted to be a CFL DC. We paid Westerman more than other teams offered. Turned out to be money well spent. We overpaid Picard and Moore too. Didn't turn out as well. The blog is by the Bombers Director of Communications. It's designed to present the most positive view of the team. It's the Bomber view of how things are in Bomberland, not a non-partisan view. I'd like to see us go outside our comfort zone and pay a good experienced OC enough to get them to come to the Peg, but I fear that ISO's right and we'll end up with a newbie OC or one who doesn't have a very good resume.

I believe it's walk the talk. And your analysis about fixing problems tends to overlook the actual complexities/challenges of putting a championship team. Yes Walters is fair game to criticism but not to unrealistic standards. Championship team? Are you crazy? Folks around here would settle for an average team that makes the playoffs and that's not an unrealistic standard.

Walters does great media. Sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Doesn't talk down to the media. Doesn't answer their questions preferring to stay on his talking points, but isn't obnoxious about it. Very agreeable. Should be up there monthly with a state of the team address.