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The obligatory I told you so's and the Eat Crow postings would take up a lot of space too.

If I was running the Riders, I'd give Troy Smith another chance. At least he's got some recent CFL experience. I wouldn't be interested in Brohm at all.

Funny how a Windows 10 thread turns into a Mac vs Windows debate. What? No love for Linux? I've been testing Windows 10 since the first public Beta and I moved my daily use machine over to it yesterday. Only problems so far have to do with Ubuntu & Suse Linux under Hyper-V. Kinda esoteric so I don't blame Microsoft for it and I'm sure it will be fixed by the end of the day. If you're a Windows user, I'd back everything up or use the cloud for storage and update in a week or two once the major problems have been found and fixed. If you find it's running slower than it used to, turn off some or all of the live tiles. I like the Edge browsers speed, but can't switch over to it without losing all my Chrome/Firefox extensions/apps. BTW: Make sure you've got lots of free space before you try to upgrade. It says it needs 40G, but I couldn't get it to work in a VM with that much free space. Added an additional 20G to the partition and it worked just fine. Really bad error message too.

I hope he's good to go and that his mobility isn't impaired or else he could get seriously injured because BC will come at him with everything they've got to try and get him out of the game.

Wonder if Greaves or Goosen will be the 6th? Which ever one it is better be ready to play the 4th quarter.

I think a lot of folks are forgetting that Marve hasn't getting many(any?) reps in the last 2 weeks. We had 1 day of practice. That's not enough for Marve to leapfrog Brohm or to give Marve a good chance at being successful. That's probably what O'Shea meant by there's nothing Marve could do to get the start this week.

Of course Marve's green. I don't see anyone suggesting that Marve isn't green. The answer for that is to play him so he gains experience, not to keep him on the sidelines then say you can't play him because he's green. I know I'd rather see Marve get experience then experience what Brohm has to offer. Marve was a rookie last year and he played well enough when he got his limited chances to see the potential. He's not a rookie anymore and quite frankly, that's not an excuse for not playing him anyway. It should be about who moves the team better, who scores the most points and who the team gets behind and that's not Brohm. It's not going to ruin him either. Think playing Cato, a raw rookie, is ruining him? Nope. Didn't think so, If Marve goes in and stinks up the joint, yup... some posters will be ready for the next QB. Others will point to the small number of reps he's had in practice and the fact that he's working with an offense that's designed for a pocket passer. Most will understand that he needs more experience. Heck folks around here are happy with him and he's only a 50% passer so far so the bar has been set really low.

You're right. I read 54% and thought I typed 54% but 64% came out.

It would be in the best interest of all parties if O'Shea would pro-actively address this **** storm and clarify Marve's status in his pressers instead of letting rumours rule the day. I'm afraid it's way to late for O'Shea to proactively address it.

I don't understand the Marve hate around here. Some folks want him to fail just to shut up the folks who want him to succeed. We're not talking Marve vs Willy here. We're talking Marve vs Brohm! Think about that for a second. Let it sink in. Marve vs Brohm. Marve, a 50% passer with an 85.4 rating vs Brohm a 64% passer with a 53.8 rating because he's thrown 5 Ints and no TDs. If we had Tate or Harris then no Marve for sure, but we don't have them. We have Brohm.

Brohm's yet to throw a TD, has thrown several INT's, hasn't moved the offence, and the whole team goes flat when he comes in. How much more rope do you think he needs to hang himself?

Typical. Make up a story from your imagination. Say it's happened before in other places with other players and other GM's. Then try to change the conversation from 'Nice Story but you got no facts' to 'Why did it happen before then'. It's your story, so it's up to you to prove it happened, not up to others to prove it didn't happen. BTW: Franklin emailing teams trying to get a shot makes it very unlikely that your story is true.

I think Willy's overrated and he's above criticism on these forums but... He's definitely our best QB by a country mile right now. Brohm shouldn't even have a job with us. Marve, who I like, hasn't got enough experience to even be in the conversation to be compared to Willy. Change out OC's (Been saying that since we kept MB during the coaching purge) and we'd probably see a better Willy than we do now.

How about Wally Gabler or Wably Gaylor as we called him. Horrible QB. Just freakin horrible.

They may not have had a choice. He may have pulled a Jeff Fuller and told the Bombers he had no intentions of signing here, in which case they are required to drop him from the neg list. That's also how Cato ended up in Montreal. Nice story but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Franklin was trying to find work in the CFL as a raw rookie. Edmonton with Reilly doesn't sound like a better place to get a chance than Winnipeg with Willy. More likely that we were 'happy' with Willy, Brohm, Marve, Portis so we didn't need another QB.

Harris

There are fans who love to win and hate to lose? Yup, pretty much everywhere in sports. Some fans get too high after a win because we're starved for wins and we don't get enough practice in reacting to them. Some fans get too low after losses because we've seen way too many losses around these parts and there is a sinking feeling that we're going to see more. These things aren't unique to Bomber fans. The same thing can be said about any group of fans, especially fans of teams who haven't done well for a while.

20 pages of glee that the Riders are losing more than we are. The longest active thread around here. I guess this is what happens when we've got very little to cheer for Bomber wise.

I remember Mike posting that Franklin was on our Neg list before when I suggest we pluck him off of Edmonton's PR back in week 1. Considering our current backup QB's, letting Franklin go from the Neg List is a bit of a facepalm moment.

Bomber fans are fickle? Are you freaking kidding me? Fans have supported the Bombers through thick and thin and theirs been tons of thin over the last quarter century. 2014 - 7-11 2013 - 3-15 2012 - 6-12 2011 - 10-8 2010 - 4-14 2009 - 7-11 2008 - 8-10 That's 1 winning season in the last 7 and we're losing this season too. The fact that we still have 20,000+ fans going to home games shows very supportive fans indeed, not fickle ones.

If the Bombers wanted them to stop blitzing then they should have done something about it. Screens, Draws, quick hitters, you know the stuff every team except us does. It wasn't the Eskimos running up the score. It was the Bombers not providing any fight, which is scary the first time you see it in a year and really scary when you see it again.

Positives.... Westerman. That is all. Just Westerman.

Fire O'Shea? Now? Wow! Good HC's have jobs right now. Wait until the end of the year and if we don't make the playoffs, then sure get rid of O'Shea, but doing it now is as premature as a guy's first time.

For me it's: 1) BLM - 25 with the most experience of the bunch. I'd build a team around him for sure 2) Collaros - 26. Mobile and accurate can't ask for much more in a young QB. 3) Willy - 28. Pocket passer. Accurate but older than the other two and not as easy to protect. 4) Cato 23. Could be the best of the bunch, but he's got so few games under his belt that it's really hard to say. 5) Harris 29. Very limited reps, but if he keeps this up, Toronto will have a serious QB controversy.

Two great games last night. Calgary made the mistakes we did last week and got the loss because of it. Shows what they look like when they can't just run Cornish in the second half. Still Ottawa tried to lose it by missing a convert then a 32 yard FG in the last couple of minutes. Should we be worried that Ottawa beat Calgary when we couldn't? BC rolled out to an easy 21 point lead, thought they had the game in the bag and took their foot off the gas. What was Tedford thinking going for 3rd and 3+? Kick the ball and pin them deep. Turned the game around for Toronto. Why did BC stop going to Harris? He had a hat trick of TD's before a minute was gone in the 2nd quarter. If/When Lulay gets his deep ball range right, BC will be a force to be reckoned with.