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That made me laugh. Thanks.

The game for Ottawa boils down to: Can the receivers catch the ball consistently? Can the O line give Burris time consistently? Can the D line get pressure on Willy some/most of the time?

Volny is not a starting RB by any stretch of the imagination. He'll probably be replaced in the off season. Stoudemire is on the 6 game IR.

Burris is a good QB. He'll be in the Hall of Fame. It's not his fault that the redblacks aren't winning. Without him, they'd actually look worse than they have. Ottawa isn't going to sit Burris and play their backup QB's. We don't need a weekly Burris watch on the Bomber forum.

That's really too bad. Best returner we've had in years.

So let me get this straight. If Mike O'Shea stated on the radio that the helmet speaker stopped working, you think he's lying and is trying to cover up for some screw up on their part. But if Lawless, Wiecek or Friesen say anything...OMG IT'S THE TRUTH!!!! HOW CAN YOU GUYS NOT BELIEVE THE MEDIA, AS IF THEY WOULD LIE TO US!!!!!1111!!! YOU GUYS ARE ALL CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! Seriously man, this is why people question the things you say. Because you believe the guys who just want to bash on the Bombers, but you won't believe the head coach when he said there was a malfunction. Your not drawing me into yet another media argument. This one has absolutely nothing to do with the media. Is it possible that it was just bad luck and bad timing at a critical part of the game? Sure. Probable? Not in my opinion. Worth arguing about? Nah. If O'Shea fed you pablum and called it a steak, you'd not only believe him, but you'd argue with everyone else that is was the best steak you ever ate. Yeah, because we're just sheep that believe everything he says and does and have never argued about some of the choices he's made this year. My point above doesn't have has anything to do with the media, it's the fact that you make no sense in who YOU specifically choose to believe in your posts, so it dirties your rep. What would make you think O'Shea is lying to everyone about this? It's not like he walks around telling everyone a bunch of BS all the time. But according to you he's making an excuse, or in fact lying to everyone, to cover his butt. Yet you choose to believe practically anything the media says and defend them at all stakes. The comparison I made is not media vs O'Shea, it's about how you interpret who is telling the truth and who is BSing you. MOS is a very matter of fact guy who seems pretty down to Earth. I don't agree with him on all his choices (run defense, starting certain players, etc...), but I can't see what the point would be for him to lie about this. His team already made enough mistakes all game, there's no reason for him to lie about this one thing. He didn't even mention the bad calls the refs made during the game. That right there shows integrity. Even though he knew they were wrong he didn't go around calling them out on it. I don't always believe what players, coaches, management or media say. Years of experience lead me to believe that all of them lie or massage or spin the truth or give a version of the truth that puts them in the best light. They all go through the same media training. O'Shea's never going to blame a player or coach or any of the management team for that matter in public. It's been his MO since the day he took the job. He's never wavered from it and I don't think he ever will. If a coach didn't get the play call in in time, O'Shea wouldn't call him out. If Willy didn't get the play off on time, O'Shea wouldn't call him out. If other players didn't get lined up in time, O'Shea's not going to call them out. If a player or coach was supposed to be watching the clock and didn't do it, O'Shea's not going to call him out. O'Shea's not calling the plays, so he can't fall on his sword and take the blame, which he's done on other occasions. Blaming the tech is an easy way out. O'Shea is hardly up front about most things in the media. He keeps stuff behind closed doors. Lots of folks around here have commended him on that, but they still want to believe that everything he says is gospel. You can't have it both ways IMHO.

So let me get this straight. If Mike O'Shea stated on the radio that the helmet speaker stopped working, you think he's lying and is trying to cover up for some screw up on their part. But if Lawless, Wiecek or Friesen say anything...OMG IT'S THE TRUTH!!!! HOW CAN YOU GUYS NOT BELIEVE THE MEDIA, AS IF THEY WOULD LIE TO US!!!!!1111!!! YOU GUYS ARE ALL CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! Seriously man, this is why people question the things you say. Because you believe the guys who just want to bash on the Bombers, but you won't believe the head coach when he said there was a malfunction. Your not drawing me into yet another media argument. This one has absolutely nothing to do with the media. Is it possible that it was just bad luck and bad timing at a critical part of the game? Sure. Probable? Not in my opinion. Worth arguing about? Nah. If O'Shea fed you pablum and called it a steak, you'd not only believe him, but you'd argue with everyone else that is was the best steak you ever ate.

The speaker in the helmet works for the whole game, heck the whole season, except for the one play we take a stupid time count. That doesn't make you go Hmmmm?

Folks believe that helmet speaker stopped working on the one play we took a time count violation at the end of the game? Sounds more like an excuse to me.

If the Riders can Cortez for stubbornness, we should hire him right away. Huge upgrade over MB.

Those yapping penalties are completely within the players control. Don't want to take a penalty? Don't taunt. Don't blame the officials for those calls.

Great to see the Esks own the Riders last night. Sunseri's worse than I expected him to be. Telegraphing his throws. Taking too long to make his decisions. Nothing to like about his game at all yet. The Eskimos would have won this game even if Durant was playing. They owned the Riders at the LOS. 300 rushing yards? Holy cow. Still, they didn't put it away until the last TD late in the 4th quarter. Stamps and Esks are the two top teams in the league right now.

I picked Montreal and Edmonton. Ottawa couldn't win a game that was handed to them last week and Montreal is hungry. Riders looked pretty bad last week and just squeaked out a win against the worst team in the league. They are facing much stiffer competition in Edmonton.

The quality has been dropping for a long time. This site should be about football, but it's become more about petty arguments, whining, and attacking other posters and thats not just the rider fans. It's a tough slog to find any actual football talk these days.

Toronto's coming together at the right time. Should have beaten Calgary last week. Easily beat BC last night in BC. If they can stay relatively healthy the rest of the season, they will be hard to handle.

Seems a bit contradictory to me... Not contradictory. Same team. Different QB. Different result. IMO it shows that Clements was an upgrade over Brock. The best QB in the league on a below average team, isn't going to win the Grey Cup. For Example, Ricky Ray on some of those poor Edmonton teams looked pretty average, but he was still the best QB in the league by far. Doug Flutie on BC is another example.

Ploen is Mr. QB in Winnipeg. No chance he didn't make it as the best as picked by the fans and the media. Winning Grey Cups is a team stat, not a QB stat IMHO, but I know a lot of folks disagree. Brock was the best pure passer the Bombers ever had and it's not even close. Great QB who couldn't win the big game. My choice was Clements. He took the team that Brock couldn't win the big game with and won the the cup with them. Not the strongest arm or the quickest feet, but he was a winner. Dunnigan had some amazing games in Blue and Gold. Unfortunately we got him after the injuries had taken their toll and he was often injured and couldn't finish games. I'd rank him over Brock for his entire CFL career but lower as a Bomber. Jones turned our team around. Great leader. Prolific passer. Good runner. Succeeded in spite of a poor O line. Certainly in the conversation as one of the great QB's in Bomber history.

No one is talking about blowing it up and starting over again. We are talking about adding a couple of new players to try and fix the losing streak. Holy overreach pig and goalie.

Without Willy, I don't like our chances of beating Hamilton or Edmonton.

This sucks! Willy is our season this year. I hope it's just a bruise d shoulder.

Glad we got Willy. Don't think he was our 1st choice, but it doesn't matter anyway. No way to know for sure.

It's hilarious that the folks who tell me not to read these threads can't follow their own advice and not read the newspapers.

250 yards? I'm laughing even as I type it. Harris is an ID-10-T.

Oh boy! Another crap on the media thread! I can hardly wait for the same folks to make the same 'points' in this one that they did in all the other ones. Where's the yawn emoticon when you need one?

He's been our best receiver this year. Good extension.