TBURGESS

You can't play schoolyard-flip-the-phrase on me on this one because I have not stated how Miller handled it one way or the other. Where my opinion does comes in is related to how Friesen handled, then wrote his article. Pretty evident to me he didn't get his way and so he took it out on Miller. Your You're the one in denial. Pretty evident that you've made up your mind and what you opinion is. No use in pretending you don't think that Miller was right and Friesen was wrong. The article was going to be written no matter what Miller did. His actions guaranteed that it would not be a flattering article. You want to blame Friesen for that. If Miller chose a different route and allowed the press in, then there was at least a chance that the article wouldn't be so negative against the Bombers and a zero percent chance that the article would be negative towards Miller. That's why I think it was the wrong way to handle the situation. It annoys me when the Bombers get bad press that they could have avoided and this is one of those times. It's not just Friesen who's following the story, nor is it just Friesen who wants to be let in to see the damage. It's not just the media who think they should be let in. The mayor and tons of comments in the press. I'd guess that a poll in the papers, not on the Bomber fan sites, would show that most people want to see what's going on and that most feel they have a right to know. The major difference between most folks and Friesen is that Friesen can write about it. I don't usually argue with folks who hate Friesen because I don't particularly like his writing style, and I know he does it to get rise out of folks. That's one way to keep your job in a dying industry I guess. In this case however, the Friesen hate is misplaced. I'm not in denial. I disagree with your opinion. Two very different things.

It is only your opinion and Friesen's spin that Miller handled it incorrectly. Nobody else is fingering Miller..why is that? It's a crock if you think that Miller should have given in to blackmail…."show me or else." It's your opinion that Miller handled it correctly. No one else is fingering Miller because they either didn't talk to MIller directly (My best guess), or Miller told them it was off the record, or they don't have the guts to name Miller. It's not blackmail. No one said 'Show me or else', your just making up stuff now.

As this post actually explains the topic of coversation and doesn't fit with the idea that tburgess has in his head expect it to be completely ignored. Never have I seen someone so consistently miss the entire point of why people say what they say. I'm not missing the point. I disagree with the popular opinion that this is in any way Friesen's fault. You're not missing the points I'm making either, you're disagreeing with them. Sort of the point of discussion don't you think? There is no way that Friesen could have written the story he did if Miller handled the situation correctly and let the media in to see the damage. Friesen's expected negativity would have had to go somewhere else like the folks who are actually at fault. People read the stories think of the worse case scenario, like the Saddledome, when they hear about water damage. I'm sure it's no where near that bad, so pictures would help the situation rather than hamper it. Not likely to happen now, because that would be Miller giving in to the Media.

They did things right until this story. They also got good press until this story. Which shows that Friesen will crap on the Bombers no matter how much goodwill they build with the media. It actually shows that the media will give good press when the Bombers do the right thing and bad press when they don't, which is the way it's always been and always will be. Folks around here want to blame Friesen every time he prints a negative story about the Bombers. It's far easier to blame him than it is to discuss the valid problems he brings up. Our stadium is leaking... blame Friesen. Nope, blame the architects / builders instead. Our management won't let the media in to report the damage? Blame Friesen. Nope, blame our management/media folks instead.

They did things right until this story. They also got good press until this story.

You've got it backwards. Friesen has always been the way he is, that's not a result of the way the team has treated the media just the way Friesen tries to stay relevant in a world that needs newspapers and self entitled columnists less and less. I complain because Friesen is **** at his job, if he doesn't want to do the job well then I am all in favour of the team not giving him anything. He's got to earn it. Nope, you've got it backwards. When Taman was around it was a 'Love In' with the media because he fed them info and bent over backwards to help them out in every way he could. Since Kelly, The Bombers have treated the press with disdain. The result should be obvious to everyone. Try to put the media in their place and the articles they write will have a negative slant. It's the way the media has always worked and the way it will continue to work whether you like it or not. If they like you, they will show more respect and write more positive articles. You, and others, gripe about every article Friesen writes. You don't like the guy so you treat him with disdain and spew negative comments. It's funny because you're actually upset with him for doing the same thing that you do. Is it because he has a bigger audience or that he gets paid?

Why do you find it unlikely that Laurent would sign with us? We need an NI starter on defense to replace Muamba and we should have extra money to be able to offer him a better salary than BC or Montreal, although they would give him a better chance to be a winner. Edmonton isn't much better than we are so they would have to compete on price with us. At the very least, we should be able to push Laurents salary up.

It's Paul Friesen, it was always going to be a negative story about the Bombers even if Wade Miller gave him a handy to go along with the tour. That's Friesens entire schtick, be as negative as possible. He's just a bad troll trying to get people worked up. The idea is to channel Friesen's negativity towards the builders and/or architects where it belongs, instead of towards the Bombers. The only thing the Bombers may have done wrong is hire the wrong architect or builder or both. When you're having something built, you leave it up to the professionals to handle how water is controlled. I doubt there is a single person on the Bombers staff who has the credentials to do it. You have to trust the professionals you hire to do their job. If they don't do it properly, you expect them to fix their mistakes. That's what the story should be right now. "Bombers get screwed by the architect/builders" or "Taxpayers get screwed by the architect/builders" or even "Who screwed up the new stadium?" complete with pictures of the destruction and discussion of who's fault it is. Yeah cause Friesen is always fair and balanced right? Guy was going to crap on the Bombers regardless because that's what he always does. I approve of Miller telling him to piss off. Of course you approve. You liked the way Kelly handled the media too. It was one of the few things he did right. Joe Mack had the same attitude and I approved of that as well. The media wants to act like entitled brats I wouldn't give them anything either. The brand is strong they don't need the media to pump their tires they just have to put a winning product on the field. Then don't complain about negative articles because they are a byproduct of the way the Bombers treat the media. You can't have it both ways.

It's Paul Friesen, it was always going to be a negative story about the Bombers even if Wade Miller gave him a handy to go along with the tour. That's Friesens entire schtick, be as negative as possible. He's just a bad troll trying to get people worked up. The idea is to channel Friesen's negativity towards the builders and/or architects where it belongs, instead of towards the Bombers. The only thing the Bombers may have done wrong is hire the wrong architect or builder or both. When you're having something built, you leave it up to the professionals to handle how water is controlled. I doubt there is a single person on the Bombers staff who has the credentials to do it. You have to trust the professionals you hire to do their job. If they don't do it properly, you expect them to fix their mistakes. That's what the story should be right now. "Bombers get screwed by the architect/builders" or "Taxpayers get screwed by the architect/builders" or even "Who screwed up the new stadium?" complete with pictures of the destruction and discussion of who's fault it is. Yeah cause Friesen is always fair and balanced right? Guy was going to crap on the Bombers regardless because that's what he always does. I approve of Miller telling him to piss off. Of course you approve. You liked the way Kelly handled the media too.

It's Paul Friesen, it was always going to be a negative story about the Bombers even if Wade Miller gave him a handy to go along with the tour. That's Friesens entire schtick, be as negative as possible. He's just a bad troll trying to get people worked up. The idea is to channel Friesen's negativity towards the builders and/or architects where it belongs, instead of towards the Bombers. The only thing the Bombers may have done wrong is hire the wrong architect or builder or both. When you're having something built, you leave it up to the professionals to handle how water is controlled. I doubt there is a single person on the Bombers staff who has the credentials to do it. You have to trust the professionals you hire to do their job. If they don't do it properly, you expect them to fix their mistakes. That's what the story should be right now. "Bombers get screwed by the architect/builders" or "Taxpayers get screwed by the architect/builders" or even "Who screwed up the new stadium?" complete with pictures of the destruction and discussion of who's fault it is.

There's no validity to keeping people out until fault has been determined. That could take months if not years depending on how much it costs to fix. The story was going to get written last night no matter what. By not letting reporters in to see the damage, Miller guaranteed that it was going to be aa negative story about the Bombers. A decent media person would have spun a different story. Something along the lines of... "We don't know who's fault it is that we have water ingress in our great new building, but we are going to get to the bottom of it and have the culprits pay for fixing it. In the meantime, come on over and see for yourselves. Take some pictures, but don't touch anything." You've then got a better chance of the story being about bad contractors or bad design and the Bombers become the injured party, which BTW, they are.

I laugh at those who blame Friesen. He didn't pour water in the suites. He didn't make snow melt. He didn't design or build the stadium. He didn't deny access to a big news story. All he did was ask to see the damage that he'd been told about. Simple request so he could write his story. Handled wrong by the Bombers. When will the Bombers learn that you either work with the media or get burnt by it?

I guess BC isn't in the Glenn sweepstakes anymore.

I think Elliott is better than Hall, but I don't see any reason to bring him back. I'm hoping we bring in some better QB's so we don't even need Hall any more.

Is there anywhere I can watch the one on one's?

Not really. We traded our 2nd rounder for a position of need (OL). If we can now obtain a similar 2nd round pick in exchange for a position of strength, for example a NI DB like Cauchy, that would be a very shrewd move by Walters. Cauchy isn't going to get a 2nd rounder and safety isn't a position of strength.

I grew up in River Heights, and BDI is/was my go to place for Goog Specials.

I hope that Board Of Governors vitos it. Dumbest rule change in years IMHO.

Best pizza in Winnipeg IMHO is at Mona Lisa's on Corydon. I make a point of having one every time I come to town.

I'd rather they train the officials better and clean up the definition(s) of PI so it's called the same way by every ref on every play of every game.

So Calgary goes and gives the league a successful example of elevating a young starter with upside, and teaming him with an experienced, good-but-not-great backup... and TBurgess from the confines of his cozy British Columbia abode thinks that it is laughable to suggest that might work in Winnipeg? Calgary's been arguably the most successful team in the CFL since signing Kevin Glenn as its experienced, good-but-not-great, backup quarterback. Why wouldn't we try it, if the price were right? Let me ask the question again. What makes folks think that Willy is the QB we have been looking for, because I don't see it. I could see it if we were talking about Reilly, Collaros or Smith, but Willy? Even from the 'Best Coast' I can see that what makes sense in Calgary, doesn't necessarily make sense in Winnipeg. Calgary has Tate who is good enough to start when he isn't injured and BLM who most think is the next big thing, so Glenn in a backup role makes sense. We have Willy with 2(?) starts behind a significantly better O line than we have and Hall, our most experienced QB who no one is saying is going to be the next big thing, so Glenn in a backup role doesn't make sense to me. .

Its called veteran insurance in case plan A doesn't work out. Your plan has failed us the last three years...we can't suffer any more poor qb play when this team doesn't have the talent to overcome this. My plan didn't fail us. Mack's plan did. Don't you remember any of Jyles, Brink, Elliott, Goltz, Hall and others? Buck was the only experienced QB we had and he wasn't able to stay healthy enough to play. The rest are 'coulda woulda been's'. BTW: For the record, like a lot of others, I thought we should have kept Elliott and gotten rid of Buck in the last off season and I wished we'd have traded for Glenn.

All this talk of bringing Glenn in only if he's a backup makes me laugh. Willy is our starting QB right now. If we bring Glenn in, that's likely to change because Glenn is a better QB right now than Willy is. You need to start your best players, not have them sit on the bench 'coaching' a young guy. We already have a QB coach for that with Buck to back him up. Right now we are at the same place we were when Kelly was coaching. We got another teams inexperienced backup QB and named him as our starting QB. As every year since we fired Glenn shows us, the chances of that working out are pretty slim. What makes everyone think this years inexperienced QB is the one we have been looking for but haven't found for the last decade?

That's an insane ask. I doubt Ottawa gets more than a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick. (I know we don't have our 2nd rounder, but BC does)

Nik Lewis can play on my team any day of the week. He's one of the few receivers who I'd trust to get that extra yard or two when we really need it.