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Good news. Let's all hope it works out great.

Hugely in favour too. 2 Shots + Mask is what should be done, but won't be.

My worry is that politicians will open it up too soon yet again and we'll end up with yet another wave. Folks need both shots, not just one, especially for the newest variants. That being said, I think the vote this weekend will be to go ahead with an August start.

I run the TSN app on my Android box. No casting, works through an HDMI cable.

Damn... I was hoping for Ex-Kimos. I wonder if the Elks lodges will kick up a fuss.

That's 70% partially (80% effective). With the Kenny government's track record on Covid restrictions, I'd take this announcement with several grains of salt. BC wants the CFL to hold off until late August to coincide with their reopening plans. Manitoba is tightening restrictions. Quebec wants to reopen late August. Ontario didn't give dates, but they want 70% to 80% of the population to have 1 dose and 25% to have 2 doses before step 3 kicks in. (They are at 42.14% partially and 2.92% fully vaccinated).

We'll eventually get to herd immunity, but 70% if people get vaccinated then almost a third of the population is still unvaccinated. That's more than 10 million, mostly Covidiots, in Canada alone. That means it will stay around in pretty big numbers for years and it pisses me off because it doesn't need to happen. We could get to the 95+% mark if the Governments would simply tell people that they have to be vaccinated. They could make it mandatory to carry a vaccine card to get into any large scale event and to travel, even province to province, but they won't do it because popularity is more important to them than the safety of the population. FTR: Latest CDC data says 1 shot of Moderna or Pfizer is 80% effective and at least 1 fully vaccinated Manitoban has died of Covid.

Saying it isn't proving it. Even if everyone in Manitoba over 12 who wants a vaccine gets one by June 9th, that's only one province, only one shot, and only 70-80% vaccinated. Will there be a vaccination card by June 9th too? If not, no proof of vaccination too. From May 14: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has promised that everyone who wants to can be fully vaccinated by September, this week spoke of a "one-dose summer" and a "two-dose fall" without explaining what that might look like. (https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-plots-course-fully-vaccinated-return-gatherings-fall-2021-05-14/) 4% of the adult population in Canada is fully vaccinated. (https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/) 47.8% of Manitoba +12's have 1 vaccination as of today. (https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/vaccine/index.html) I doubt that doubles in the next 3 weeks. Fully immunized in Manitoba = 7.1% as of May 20. No way that goes up to 75-80% in 3 weeks. That's what 'proof' looks like. Data, supported by sources.

I don't think we are through with the pandemic at all. The Covidiots will keep it going way longer than it needs to. The current vaccines will protect folks against the current strain(s), but we'll likely need to get a yearly vaccination to keep it at bay. We don't know how long the current vaccine will keep us safe especially when we are ignoring the science when it comes to time between doses. Trudeau, the younger, is still talking about everyone will be vaccinated by the end of September. In political talk, that's one shot. In reality, it take two to get above 70-80% protected. Add in the 20% who won't get vaccinated at all, and we're in this for a long time IMO. The idea that we'll all get back to the same normal as we used to have is based on hopes and dreams. We'll get back to a new normal with vaccine cards to get into places and to travel and a yearly outbreak that will mostly replace the flu outbreaks. The 3.4 million deaths worldwide including the 25,000 Canadian families who've lost a loved one will never forget this once in a hundred year pandemic. It's scar will remain for a generation or more.

They didn't approve fans for Oilers games.

Alberta government has not issued official approval of CFL return-to-play protocols - https://3downnation.com/2021/05/19/alberta-government-has-not-issued-official-approval-of-cfl-return-to-play-protocols/ That leaves Winnipeg and Regina. Hard to see how that works for the CFL.

Honestly, no and I've had season tickets in both Calgary and Vancouver.

I think you're looking for something that isn't there and finding it.

Actually Shell Shock was WW1. By WW2 it had changed to postconcussional syndrome or battle fatigue. Then it became operational exhaustion. Now it's PTSD.

I hadn't noticed that the numbers are a week out of date. We've gone up 7.614% of Canadians getting their first shot since April 10 according to: https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html and up to about 2.5% fully vaccinated instead of the 2.13% on April 10. Less than 1 Million Canadians have been fully vaccinated so far. You're right that AZ is 12 weeks between shots. The others are 3-4 weeks. Thanks for the correction. AZ vaccines are coming to Canada in part because the US won't use them and were getting J&J, because the US has 'paused' it due to side effects. Delivery dates haven't been settled yet. Several countries including the US, haven't approved AZ, other countries suspended it's use, still other countries only give it to 55+ or 65+ folks. The blood clot issue went from 1 in a million to 7 to 10 in a million in a week or two. We won't know where the number will eventually land until the independent data is in. I can understand people wanting the best instead of the cheapest vaccine. There are 38 Million people in Canada. Even if we assume that we can fully vaccinate 22 Million by the end of June, which I don't believe, that still leaves 16 million and no one will know who is and isn't vaccinated. Yes, all vaccinations only provide partial immunity. 94% immunity is better than 74% immunity and 74% is better than none. The blood clot issue isn't just something that they can take care of. People have died from it (At least 19 as of April 7 when it was still a 1 in a million chance.). Kinda ironic to die taking the vaccine you took to protect you from Covid. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ The official numbers, not behind a paywall. 1 shot isn't immunity. CDC says 2nd shot should be given 3-4 weeks after the first shot and there is no scientific evidence for delaying more than 6 weeks. 84+% of age 80 and up have been vaccinated. The vaccine hesitancy is specifically for the Atra Zenica (74% effective) because of the blood clotting issues (7.9 per million doses, up from 1 per million just a week ago. BTW: Double the risk cuz everyone needs 2) and the fact that it's significantly less effective than Pfizzer (94%) and Moderna (94%). From a CFL perspective, it's the cumulative numbers from Ontario, Quebec, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and BC that matter, not just one of the provinces. I'm 63, in Calgary. I managed to change my first dose from May 17 to May 3 yesterday. It means I'll get AZ, which I really don't want, but at least I'll have some immunity. I have no idea when I'll be able to get my second shot. Once I get it, I'll be 74% immunized and I'll still wear a mask in public because no one knows who is vaccinated and who is just being a Covidiot.

2.13% of Canadians are fully vaccinated as of today. .25% of the population got their 2nd shot last week. That's 1% of the population getting 2nd shots a month. At that rate, it will take 97 more months to get everyone vaccinated. 17% of Canadians have received a single dose. 3.96% got their 1st shot last week. That's 15.84% getting their first shot a month. That's 5.25 months to get everyone a single dose, which puts us into September and the reason the Government can say everyone will be vaccinated by September. Of course, you're not fully vaccinated until a couple of weeks after the second shot, but Governments don't care about facts.

They have a verbal agreement in the West, assuming the 3rd wave subsides, but don't even have that for the East. Maybe the Eastern teams will play road games for a month at the beginning of the season. They haven't got buy in from the CFLPA and they'll look at the dates again in June. Basically a thoughts and prayers announcement. We think we might be able to do August and we pray that Covid won't still be a problem.

Believe what you want to Speed. Doesn't make it true. No other network is interested in out bidding TSN. The CFL needs money? Hardly a surprise. That's why they are talking with the XFL. If the CFL goes to 4 downs and NFL like rules, I bet most folks simply watch the NFL. Those who want to go to games and watch the home town team play NFL lite likely aren't enough to keep the CFL/XFL going for more than a couple of years.

The going rate it what TSN is paying. If the going rate was higher, another channel would outbid TSN. If TSN decided to pay less, the CFL wouldn't have any choice but to take it, unless another channel was willing to pick it up for more. It doesn't float. TSN pays the same no matter how many folks are watching. Sometimes they are overpaying. Sometimes they are underpaying, but its all the going rate.

You're right about participation, but you're wrong about TSN keeping the price artificially low. Other networks would out bid them if they thought the price was low. TSN pays the going rate for the CFL, maybe a bit more to keep the competition out.

The ills of society lead 1% of people in these circumstances to murder. Your white guilt is better placed on the victims who suffer than on the murderers. The conversion starts as soon as the person gets arrested, not after the court case or the sentencing. Most people absolutely take skin colour into account, just read the posts. Therefore, your timeline argument is invalid. I also disagree with your opinion that bullies don't have good parents who would have corrected them. In your world, society 'makes' murderers, lack of good parenting 'makes' bullies and you can 'correct' behaviour by simply giving people something better to do. You discount motive and the fact that these things don't effect most people enough to make them into murderers or even bullies. It's great to hear that you reduced vandalism, which is not bullying, and violence (How did you quantify that?) in your community tho. Congrats.

IT'S ABOUT MAKING PEOPLE FEEL SORRY FOR THE MURDERER and it's a great STRATEGY. We talked about this for a week before anyone brought up motive and the percentage of people who murder. It took another day before anyone brought up the victims. By the time someone gets caught it's too late for prevention for them. I'm all for changing things to make the world fairer for more people, but that conversation needs to be outside the realm of the 'justice system'. By bringing it up every time someone of colour kills someone, you're perpetrating the myth that their background is THE reason they killed someone. As 99% of people, even from the same background, never kill anyone, it's way down near the bottom of the 'reasons' someone is a murderer. If you want to empathize with anyone, empathize with the victims and their families. Society needs to focus more on the murdered than on the murderers. Laws need to change to give victims and their families more rights even if that means reducing the rights of the perpetrators. I bet, tho I having looked up the stats, that more people from bad backgrounds are murdered than are murderers.

My bad choice of words. I should have said it's not just a poor choice. The murderer may be 100% responsible (premeditated) or they may be partly responsible (manslaughter) or defending themselves or it may be an accident. Each type has different levels of punishment or no punishment at all. I'm not for treating them all equally. Most here are saying that background and societal influences should be taken into account. How do you explain any middle class or rich murderers like the Menendez brothers (Rich, entitled, killed their 2 parents, no slavery, no racism)? Are societal influences only influences in some cases? When looking at murders look at motivation (Love, Loathing, Loot) first. Look at drug use second. A few stats: Less than 1% of global deaths are homicide. In Canada it's 0.19%. In the USA it's .7%. Somewhere between 16,000-20,000 people commit murder in the USA, which is very close to the number who commit suicide. 20,000 / 332,000,000 is way less than 1% of the population. 99% of people never murder anyone. How can you blame societal influences be the cause for 1% when it isn't for 99%? Can you provide stats to back up your opinion?

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