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And yet... you keep it going.

I like the way you think.

You got the 300+ yards right, but he went 2-0, not 1-2, and it doesn't prove Mike's point unless I didn't give Nichols his due that day. IIRC I doubt that I said he played a bad game that day, but go back and check if you want. Stats are just a starting point, not the end of the argument. That being said, throwing for 300+ yards isn't easy. QB's who are 'off' or playing badly don't throw for 300 yards very often. Sometimes it's a function of being behind and having no choice but to throw deep often. Garbage time yards. Sometimes it's because the defence is playing like crap. That wasn't the case in the Bomber game. Mostly it's cuz the QB is throwing the ball where it needs to be. I'd suggest that when a QB throws for 300+ yards and his team lost, that the loss wasn't because the QB played badly that game. Why do folks keep bringing up wins when they aren't a QB only stat? QB's often play average or below average and still win games. Dominic Davis threw 0 TD's and 4 ints and 275 yards last week and won. That doesn't make him a good QB that day. BLM threw for the same number of yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. That doesn't make him a good QB that day either.

Nichols made reads. Extended plays with his feet. Threw some nice deep balls. Took advantage of what they gave him. Played his best game since 2017. You get no argument from me on any of that. I said all that in my first post after the game. Reilly threw for more yards. Threw some nice deep balls. Took advantage of what we gave him. Played an average game for him. He did it without any running game at all, against a far better defence than Nichols faced. Anyone who actually believes that Nichols would have gone 3 TD's to 0 Int's against our defence, behind their O Line without Andrew Harris to rush for 150ish yards is fooling themselves IMO. Me disagreeing that Reilly didn't play well has somehow morphed into people pretending that I'm saying Nichols didn't play well. Mike... I can't remember a game where Nichols threw for 300+ yards and went 1-2 against any defence, let alone against a good defence. Maybe I'm miss remembering, but your million dollar bet isn't worth the time it took you to type it, so I'm not going to go through the stats and try to find one then cross reference that against what I typed around here.

It's funny, that's not what I said at all. Tells me all I need to know about your reading competence. FTR: "Both QB's played well. Nichols performance didn't win us the game and Reilly's performance didn't lose them the game". To add... The level of defence each QB played against are quite different. Switch the QB's to the other team wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome. Bombers still win.

I'd flip BC and Ottawa around. Beating the Stamps at home > losing to the Bombers.

3rd in the west is the same as 3rd in the league, not bottom half or bottom third. How is it negative to respond to folks who are making stuff up?

Not as off as your accusations of what I said in the off season. FTR: I picked the Bombers to be 2nd or 3rd in the league, not in the bottom 3rd. I didn't say or imply that the sky was falling. If you 'heard' anything else, then it was the voices in your head. Losing 3 all stars, 2 on the O line is a fact and I already gave full props to the positrons the morning after the win for this game.

It's funny seeing the same guys who take shots at the Riders their fandom doing the IToldYaSo's after week one.

I was surprised that Hecht didn't get a taunting penalty there. I expect that Carter's been told not to react overtly to any slight because the refs are watching him.

I think it's the new reality of taking a GM or even an HC job in the CFL. You won't get to pick your staff until the old staffs contracts are up. No team can afford to pay 2 HC's and stay under the management SMS.

That's the only thing that makes sense, but their are no past performances in week 1, so it's all on off season expectations.

That depends on how long Khari's contract is for with the new rules. Gotta pay him anyway and it's on the coaching SMS.

I agree with the Winnipeg choice and the bottom 3 but the rest are confusing to say the least. Nothing but this season to go on, how do you rank Ottawa at 6 and Calgary at 2 or the Ticats behind the Lions?

I'll go with Gable.

As one of 'those people', I call BS. Both QB's played well. Nichols performance didn't win us the game and Reilly's performance didn't lose them the game.

I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence.

Fixed it for you. 😎

So your saying if Burham makes it to the endzone instead of being caught from behind, then Reilly's a better QB because he has the same number of TD's as Int's, even tho he didn't do anything differently? I'd call the first Burnham big catch a busted coverage because 2 of our guys went with the same player. His 2nd big one was poor tackling, not a bust. Fenner just got beat in the end zone one on one. I don't know where you get the 'inaccurate in the intermediate passing game' or the 'decade of taking a beating' meaning that he doesn't want to run. I didn't see many lane for him to run through and I didn't see him miss (m)any intermediate routes. I'm not propping up his performance, nor does the name on his back mean anything to me. Its not just about the stats. Lets say Reilly does nothing different but.... Burnham makes it to the endzone instead of being caught. Reilly has 11 more yards and a TD. Burnham catches the ball that he dropped in the 4th. Reilly's stats go to 360ish yards, 2 TD's 2 Int's and 59% without making a single change to anything he did. For fun... lets say that BC can actually kick a convert so they get 3 more points (1 for the convert -2 for our run back to the end zone). The last couple of minutes completely change as they are only down by 3. Would any of this change the game that Reilly had? Nope. If he won, would those be good stats? Yup.

Their defence gave up 3 TD's on busted coverages. If they don't do that, Reilly isn't throwing deep as often. The second int was with 4:26 left when they were behind by 10. Gotta throw deep on that one and take your chances. Reilly doesn't call his own plays. They didn't or couldn't run. That's not on Reilly. It's on their OC and our DL. Wins and losses change how we look at QB stats. Nichols takes advantage of 3 BC busts in the end zone, relies on Harris to do most of the work, throws for under 200 yards and everyone around here says he played great cuz we won. Reilly throws for 320+ yards, 1 TD but doesn't get any busts in the end zone to take advantage of and loses. Folks blame him for losing cuz he threw 2 ints. If Reilly played for the Bombers we'd still have won. If Nichols had played for the Lions, they still would have lost. The key IMO was the 3 busts in the end zone.

I agree with the 'growing pains', but our DL absolutely stuffed the run. Not sure if running for 2 or 3, then facing a blitz would have helped Reilly at all last night. He had poor defences in Edmonton too. Folks love to give QB's too much credit for the wins and too much blame them for the losses.

It's not that Reilly is obsessing on the deep ball. It's that he was playing from behind and didn't have any running game to go to. Put Andrew Harris on BC last night and Reilly looks like a world beater.

I disagree. BC had to to to max protect and Reilly was still being hit as he threw. Reilly made the throws, even under duress, his receivers let him down several times last night. BC lost in a big part because our front 4 took the run away. Once you make a team one dimensional, you're likely to win.

Reilly is struggling to win games because his defence has been letting him down and his OL isn't protecting him. Same as last year.

Bad week for newbie HC's. Only one, Steinauer, managed to get a win. Claybrooks, Dickenson, and Jones all lost. Ottawa beating Calgary was the surprise of the week. BLM missing a wide open receiver late in the 4th almost never happens. Neither does throwing 4 picks and winning. Maybe Ottawa won't be as bad as I expected. Maybe the Stamps finally drop in the standings like folks have been predicting for years. Our young OL played well. 2017 Nichols showed up. Our front 7 owned BC's OL. Everything the positrons have been saying all off season came true, except they said that Hecht sucked. BC needs to fix the busts in their defensive backfield and have to find a running game before they become good. Think mid-season. It's nice to be tied for first, while Calgary, BC, and Sask are tied for last. Based on this week, Ottawa and Montreal look better than I thought they would and Calgary looks worse.