kelownabomberfan

I think you know exactly what I mean.

amen!

Ok - thanks for that. I'll check him (?) out.

Ok - so fair enough. It's obvious that any sort of "middle ground" attempt at showing how the other side is feeling isn't appreciated. I already knew that. As for obtuse reaches, I think a lot of people are guilty of that. Continue calling peoples' views "silly garbage" all you want. It will be a long six years unfortunately for those who hate Trump.

LOL - I am not on any side, so you don't need any healing from me. I just see the constant vitriol here, and I hear the other side, and the entrenchment of both sides just says to me that there doesn't seem to be any happy medium. And that's depressing.

and the response to that would be - who should be on the supreme court? I am not in favor of this guy for sure, but who do you want instead?

and that's why Trump is going to win.

That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but that "silly garbage" represents a significant number of people in the US. My point, which seems to be lost in a sea of vitriol, is that you can either choose to listen, and understand their views, or you can call them :silly garbage". Plan B is going to lead to another victorious 4 years for Trump. Because these same people were feeling alienated and victimized in 2016. Now that has racheted up 1000%. I personally don't understand it myself. Is there no way to communicate back and forth without using words like "silly garbage" to describe each others' views?

this just isn't helping. Anyone.

shrugs...as I said, this really doesn't help try and find a way to heal the divide. But from what I am seeing, there doesn't appear to be a will on either side to do so. Why all of the constant fighting? Isn't it tiring?

Not sure what this means, but whatever, if everyone just wants to put their hands over their ears and scream "Lah lah lah" then it's another six years of Trump.

Fair enough. Then I guess there is no hope of ending the divisiveness. As long as both sides point at each other and say "they are the problem" there will never be any healing. Sigh.

As I said, this is being forwarded around on FB right now. A friend forwarded it to me because they said that as they live near the border they had Canadian friends who have now distanced themselves from her, and she finds it so stupid that people are letting politics get in the way of personal human relationships. That was her point. She doesn't get it. I sure as heck haven't let her Trump feelings get in the way of continuing to be friends, not sure why others can't as well.

Well, now you know how some Americans feel. You can choose to post extreme gifs and lob your own bombs at people like this, or you can listen to what they have to say and try to understand where they are coming from. Your call.

An American friend sent me this just now...making the rounds on Facebook apparently... DEAR EX-FRIEND,Hey, what’s up. Long time no talk.I think the last civil conversations we had occurred just days before November 8, 2016. You were supremely confident Hillary Clinton would win the presidential election; you voted for her with glee. As a lifelong Republican, I bit down hard and cast my vote for Donald Trump. Then the unimaginable happened. He won.And you lost your freaking minds.I knew you would take the loss hard—and personally—since all of you were super jacked-up to elect the first woman president. But I did not imagine you would become totally deranged, attacking anyone who voted for Trump or supported his presidency as a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic Nazi-sympathizer.The weirdness started on social media late on Election Night, as it became clear Hillary was going to lose. A few of you actually admitted that you were cradling your sleeping children, weeping, wondering what to tell your kindergartner the next morning about Trump’s victory. It continued over the next several days. Some of you seriously expressed fear about modern-day concentration camps. Despite living a privileged lifestyle, you were suddenly a casualty of the white patriarchy. Your daughters were future victims; your sons were predators-in-waiting. You threatened to leave Facebook because you could no longer enjoy the family photos or vacation posts from people who, once friends, became Literal Hitlers to you on November 8 because they voted for Donald Trump.I admit I was a little hurt at first. The attacks against us Trump voters were so personal and so vicious that I did not think it could be sustained. I thought maybe you would regain your sanity after some turkey and egg nog.But you did not. You got worse. And I went from sad to angry to where I am today: Amused.As the whole charade you have been suckered into over the last 18 months starts to fall apart—that Trump would not survive his presidency; he would be betrayed by his own staff, family, and/or political party; he would destroy the Republican Party; he would be declared mentally ill and removed from office; he would be handcuffed and dragged out of the White House by Robert Mueller for “colluding” with Russia—let me remind you what complete fools you have made of yourselves. Not to mention how you’ve been fooled by the media, the Democratic Party, and your new heroes on the NeverTrump Right.On November 9, you awoke from a self-induced, eight-year-long political coma to find that White House press secretaries shade the truth and top presidential advisors run political cover for their boss. You were shocked to discover that presidents exaggerate, even lie, on occasion. You became interested for the first time about the travel accommodations, office expenses, and lobbyist pals of administration officials. You started counting how many rounds of golf the president played. You suddenly thought it was fine to mock the first lady now that she wasn’t Michelle Obama. Once you removed your *bleep* hat after attending the Women’s March, you made fun of Kellyanne Conway’s hair, Sarah Sanders’ weight, Melania Trump’s shoes, Hope Hicks’ death stare; you helped fuel a rumor started by a bottom-feeding author that U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley slept with Donald Trump. You thought it was A-OK that Betsy DeVos was nearly physically assaulted and routinely heckled. You glorified a woman who has sex on camera for a paycheck.You have learned all kinds of new things that those of us who didn’t willfully ignore politics for the past eight years already knew. For example, we already knew that illegal immigrants were being deported and families were being separated. We already knew about misconduct at the Environmental Protection Agency. We already knew that politicians gerrymander congressional districts for favorable election outcomes. We already knew that citizens from certain countries had restricted access here.But American politics became a whole new thing for you.Some of your behavior has been kinda cute. It was endearing to watch you become experts on the Logan Act, the Hatch Act, the Second Amendment, the 25th Amendment, and the Emoluments Clause. You developed a new crush on Mitt Romney after calling him a “sexist” for having “binders full of women.” You longed for a redux of the presidency of George W. Bush, a man you once wanted imprisoned for war crimes. Ditto for John McCain. You embraced people like Bill Kristol and David Frum without knowing anything about their histories of shotgunning the Iraq War.Classified emails shared by Hillary Clinton? Who cares! Devin Nunes wanting to declassify crucial information of the public interest? Traitor!But your newfound admiration and fealty to law enforcement really has been a fascinating transformation. Wasn’t it just last fall that I saw you loudly supporting professional athletes who were protesting police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem? Remember how you fanboyed a mediocre quarterback for wearing socks that depicted cops as pigs?But now you sound like paid spokesmen for the Fraternal Order of Police. You insist that any legitimate criticism of the misconduct and possibile criminality that occured at the Justice Department and FBI is an “attack on law enforcement.” While you once opposed the Patriot Act because it might have allowed the federal government to spy on terrorists who were using the local library to learn how to make suitcase bombs, you now fully support the unchecked power of a secret court to look into the phone calls, text messages and emails of an American citizen because he volunteered for the Trump campaign for a few months.Spying on terrorists, circa 2002: Bad. Spying on Carter Page, circa 2017: The highest form of patriotism.And that white, male patriarchy that you were convinced would strip away basic rights and silence any opposition after Trump won? That fear has apparently been washed away as you hang on every word uttered by James Comey, John Brennan, and James Clapper. This triumvirate is exhibit “A” of the good old-boy network, and represents how the insularity, arrogance, and cover-your-tracks mentality of the white-male power structure still prevails. Yet, instead of rising up against it, you are buying their books, retweeting their Twitter rants and blasting anyone who dares to question their testicular authority. Your *bleep* hat must be very sad.But your daily meltdowns about Trump-Russia election collusion have been the most entertaining to observe. After Robert Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel, you were absolutely convinced it would result in Trump’s arrest and/or impeachment. Some of you insisted that Trump wouldn’t last beyond 2017. You quickly swallowed any chum tossed at you by the Trump-hating media on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post about who was going down next, or who would flip on the president.For the past year, I have watched you obsess over a rotating cast of characters: Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Carter Page, Reince Priebus, Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Sam Nunberg, and Hope Hicks are just a few of the people you thought would turn on Trump or hasten his political demise. But when those fantasies didn’t come true, you turned to Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels for hope and inspiration. It will always be your low point.Well, I think it will be. Each time I believe you’ve hit bottom, you come up with a new baseline. Perhaps defending the unprecedented use of federal power to spy on political foes then lie about it will be the next nail in your credibility coffin.The next several weeks will be tough for you. I think Americans will learn some very hard truths about what happened in the previous administration and how we purposely have been misled by powerful leaders and the news media. I wish I could see you as a victim here, but you are not. I know you are smart; you chose to support this insurgency with your eyes wide open.Now, I shall sit back and enjoy your pain.Your Ex-Friend,Julie

Jets are always good to play if you want to break a losing streak, no matter what league.

Sounds like high praise for Armia 2.0.

No likes for this post. My suspicions are confirmed. Gale Boetticher doesn't post on these forums...

Scotty Bowman was born in Quebec so even though he didn't have a French-sounding name, he could speak French and he won cups, so no one cared. The last coach the Canadiens had who couldn't speak French was Randy Cunneyworth, and he was run out of town by the media. https://nationalpost.com/sports/hockey/nhl/canadiens-doing-randy-cunneyworth-no-favours-in-language-scuffle

2007

A few weeks ago while in Montreal I did a tour of the Bell Center with Mrs. KBF. Impressive building! We even were given access to the dressing room, which I actually found kind of under-whelming. Hard wooden seats and no stalls. Not sure if that's the new NHL style. Anyway, I got into a couple of arguments with our guide over the course of the tour, one being over Pacioretty - I said that he wasn't happy and was soon going to be traded and the guide claimed that everyone dreams of playing for Montreal so of course he was happy and wouldn't be traded (I won that one!!). The big argument we got into though was about the French language issue in Montreal. I said that because the coaches, and management apparently, have to be fluent in French, and apparently also Francophone, that this was a huge handicap as the Canadiens are really limited in who they can hire for their coaches and management team. The guide gave me this look and then said "there's lots of French Canadian coaches" to which I said "Fine, name four". Working together, we were able to come up with Guy Boucher, Alain Vigneault, Claude Julien and Michel Terrien (wherever he is now). This is a pretty limited selection. Should the Quebec Nordiques ever come back, they'd be handi-capped by the same issue, as the press and fans would demand the same thing. The guide was not happy about my hypothesis. But it is something I think that bears discussion. If Montreal can't hire the best people available for coaching and management, but only the best people who can speak French, is this an issue that will seriously hurt Montreal's chances of winning a Cup ever again? Discuss.

Have been hearing from multiple hockey sources here in Kelowna that Brossoit has been working out hard with the other goalies here and has looked good. Maybe following Carey Price's work-out every day will rub off on him!

Do AHL points count?

ok that's just funny...

It was the Argos I believe