kelownabomberfan

Finally sobering up and pulling out of the depression of yesterday. Just have to get this out of my system.., ok, all better now. Here's to 2017!! All the way baby!

it hurts even more that it was Khari running their O...

and 100% of yours. So what? My point with Jacquie is she keeps seeming to want to promote hatred and divisiveness by claiming that Trump's supporters won't be happy, but for what purpose? Seems like a giant load of sour grapes to me.

So what?

LOL - no I don't. But if you think that way it certainly is strange that you think that, considering how you can't hear me.

Wait, you get to decide if your comment is relevant and level-headed? I thought it was whoever yelled the most and called people "horrible" if they don't believe everything they believe that got to make that decision. So weird.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html?_r=0

And there also hasn't been one single relevant, level-headed comment criticizing Trump in this thread that I can recall. It's really a two-way street. I also do agree with your very last sentence to some extent, though I don't think it's fair to say that he hasn't shown anything yet. That's just the liberal media echo chamber talking, and they still are being jerks in my opinion.

The Cognitive Dissonance Cluster Bomb Posted November 12th, 2016 @ 7:55am Earlier this week CNN.com listed 24 different theories that pundits have provided for why Trump won. And the list isn’t even complete. I’ve heard other explanations as well. What does it tell you when there are 24 different explanations for a thing? It tells you that someone just dropped a cognitive dissonance cluster bomb on the public. Heads exploded. Cognitive dissonance set in. Weird theories came out. This is the cleanest and clearest example of cognitive dissonance you will ever see. Remember it. This phenomenon is why a year ago I told you I was putting so much emphasis on PREDICTING the outcome of the election using the Master Persuader Filter. I told you it would be easy to fit any theory to the facts AFTER the result. And sure enough, we can fit lots of theories to the facts. At least 24 of them by CNN’s count. Generally speaking, the greater the persuasion, the more cognitive dissonance you get. Trump is – in my opinion – the greatest persuader of my lifetime. I expected this level of cognitive dissonance. Next time you see a persuader of this magnitude, you can expect the outcome to be cognitive dissonance in that case too. This brings me to the anti-Trump protests. The protesters look as though they are protesting Trump, but they are not. They are locked in an imaginary world and battling their own hallucinations of the future. Here’s the setup that triggered them. 1. They believe they are smart and well-informed. 2. Their good judgement told them Trump is OBVIOUSLY the next Hitler, or something similarly bad. 3. Half of the voters of the United States – including a lot of smart people – voted Trump into office anyway. Those “facts” can’t be reconciled in the minds of the anti-Trumpers. Mentally, something has to give. That’s where cognitive dissonance comes in. There are two ways for an anti-Trumper to interpret that reality. One option is to accept that if half the public doesn’t see Trump as a dangerous monster, perhaps he isn’t. But that would conflict with a person’s self-image as being smart and well-informed in the first place. When you violate a person’s self-image, it triggers cognitive dissonance to explain-away the discrepancy. So how do you explain-away Trump’s election if you think you are smart and you think you are well-informed and you think Trump is OBVIOUSLY a monster? You solve for that incongruity by hallucinating – literally – that Trump supporters KNOW Trump is a monster and they PREFER the monster. In this hallucination, the KKK is not a nutty fringe group but rather a symbol of how all Trump supporters must feel. (They don’t. Not even close.) In a rational world it would be obvious that Trump supporters include lots of brilliant and well-informed people. That fact – as obvious as it would seem – is invisible to the folks who can’t even imagine a world in which their powers of perception could be so wrong. To reconcile their world, they have to imagine all Trump supporters as defective in some moral or cognitive way, or both. As I often tell you, we all live in our own movies inside our heads. Humans did not evolve with the capability to understand their reality because it was not important to survival. Any illusion that keeps us alive long enough to procreate is good enough. That’s why the protestors live in a movie in which they are fighting against a monster called Trump and you live in a movie where you got the president you wanted for the changes you prefer. Same planet, different realities.

1983 Next year 1984

I thought Hillary lost?

LOL - it's going to be a long four years for you. Political puppet for the alt-right. I don't even know what that means, but I bet you got that from one of your professors right? I am curious - who has filled you with so much hate? Why are you so angry? You claim that I am the one who won't listen to reason because I say that I want to actually see how Trump does before judging him? Now you know WHY TRUMP WON. You remind me of this mother:

I hear your Johnzo, but when I read about all of the dirty tricks that Hillary's team pulled during the election, I have to wonder why people weren't more frightened of a Clinton presidency as well. http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/

And what I find sad is that you are so filled with anger, and rage (no doubt put there by someone else with political motives) that you won't even listen to what he and Michael Moore are saying. You have two choices - stay consumed with anger and rage, or calm down, and listen. Your choice.

no no no they are better off too, they are just too racist and stupid to know it.

John Podesta?

So you are going to use that to rationalize not listening to him? Really? Michael Moore said exactly the same things he did on MSNBC. He said it's time to stop insulting people that don't think like you, and start listening instead. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp?

Michael Moore, who I normally can't stand, also has a great take on what happened. Trump supporters in certain states were also Sanders supporters. They just wanted change. I liked the part where he actually praised Trump for saying during the debate that he doesn't pay taxes because he's smart, and how that resonated with people, who actually pay taxes. And how anyone who defended him for that were attacked online viciously. The Left needs to listen to Jonathon Pie. Stop attacking, start listening.

Only if you ignore the $20 trillion of debt, of which $10 of it happened during Obama's years. I know I know I get this from every Obama apologist - it's not his fault, it's the Congress' fault. Yeah, whatever.... Anyway, fine Obama had SOME experience, though 3 years as a US senator isn't much. Now look at Trump's experience. I know I know, this is where the liberal media echo chamber starts up and starts babbling about his tax losses. Anyway. I agree with Johnzo, let's give him a chance. It's in EVERYONE's best interests. I will say this - if he does anything to mess with gay rights including marriage, or messing with Roe vs Wade, I will definitely be very disappointed and will look forward to him being ousted in 4 years.

Great post, agree 100%, though I think you just stated your case much more eloquently and without rancor, which is all anyone can really ask for. Did you see this video from this British guy? He kind of sums it up for me in a nutshell why Brexit happened and why Trump happened. Language warning.

that's not really fair. How much experience did Obama have when he was elected? Almost zero. Did he produce flaming wreckage? Well...ok I take that back...

LOL - now THAT is actually probably both true and funny. I honestly think this thread has run its course, all there is left here is one extremely angry person who wants to barf up leftist fear-mongering nonsense, and me, who is barfing up Trump defense (though all I really am saying is that I want to actually see what he does as president before judging him, which I know is CRAZY I guess).

The only one trolling here is you. You are right, this is serious. And you are just doing nothing but barfing up your media echo chamber nonsense.