kelownabomberfan

Sigh, if that's all you have, my agreeing with a poster that I don't like to see the office of prime minister disrespected, then I concede I guess, but it's pretty weak sauce, and I think you got caught confusing me with TUP, and now are just back-peddling, which is fine, I would have been actually a lot more impressed if you had just admitted your mistake.. That wasn't my intention to say that no one is allowed to criticize the PM, as there is a huge difference between disrespect and legitimate criticism, something the Anti-Harper squad could never figure out or gave one whit about.. Especially in cases where the person occupying the position commits blatant hypocrisy, as was/is the case with Trudeau and his nannies. And that's not just my opinion, but Thomas Mulcair's as well. At any rate, I don't think that anyone should be shackled from stating that they disagree with something that the Prime Minister is doing, no matter what party is in power. I just don't like it when out of partisanship, blatant lies are manufactured and parroted, usually by special interest groups, be they Ezra Levant on Trudeau, or some "coalition" that blatantly lies about health care.policies of the Conservatives. I have found some of Ezra's attacks on Trudeau almost as repugnant as the lies told about Harper. What I found interesting was the lack of criticism coming from a lot of extremely vocal political pundits here. The excuse was given that it wasn't significant enough to comment on, which I think is a cop-out, but whatever. One thing I believe to be true, and that is that we have just seen the tip of the iceberg. What will be the breaking point for those who choose to remain mum? The Liberals have already broken their promise regarding the cap on the deficit. How big will it grow? And how long can they keep blaming the Conservatives (Ie how long will even the staunchest and willfully blind give them that slack?) We will see.

and speaking of Trudeau, his attendance at the Paris climate party wasn't a complete loss. I was heartened to see this tweet from him: Justin Trudeau ‏@JustinTrudeau Nov 30 With PM @Netanyahu today. I look forward to continuing & strengthening the strong friendship between Canada & Israel I am glad to see that he respects our relationship with Israel. I would hate to see him flush that relationship down the toilet to appease the radical left who are so in love with Hamas and other Israel-hating terrorist groups.

Did anyone else see Trudeau and Rona Ambrose dragging the new speaker of the House to his chair today to mark the election of a new speaker, per old parliamentary traditions? I love those old traditions. Does anyone know how that tradition started? (I do, just asking if anyone else does). I also loved the fact that neither Harper or Mulcair were a part of the dragging ceremony. Talk about refreshing. And Rona sure looks better than Steve or Angry Tom!

As for singling me out, NO, I was not the one who was chastising and calling out people on these boards to stop being disrespectful. At least, I don't recall doing that. What I do recall saying was that Harper deserved to be scorned and I was fine with that, but what I didn't like was people deliberately inventing lies about Harper, and posting them here. That was wrong. So, you are wrong. As for the posts about Trudeau by me and others, so what you are saying is that no one is ever allowed to criticize him for anything, if they ever once defended Harper when people made allegations against him that were blatantly false. At least I think that is what you are saying. Is anyone lying about Justin here, like certain individuals were lying about Harper? Not that I can see. The facts here are the facts. And you are right, hypocrite does work here. And it works when describing Justin Trudeau.

I hope he did!

I'm not cranky, in fact I've been enjoying this whole nanny thing immensely. The first big scandal (it's not really that big, but what has made it so big is all of the Trudeau fan bois crying about how "mean-spirited" everyone is being, which is just laughable.given how "mean-spirited" they were towards the last government). where Trudeau shows he's an entitled hypocrite, and it's either silence from all of those so outraged by Conservative entitlement, or attacks on the messenger. Saying I'm the last person to call someone else a hypocrite is just hilarious, but a common technique I'm see Trudeau fan bois use on other sites. They just can't stand to see their leader being questioned. I can see why. Up until now, no one really has, and all of the negativity was absorbed by the Conservatives. JT has been teflon up until now. I wonder how angry the Trudeau fan bois are going to be when crap really hits the fan. That will be interesting. Will everyone be posting "ABT!" in four years like they were posting ABH!! last election? We will see.

I think this issue has proven more than that, namely that Trudeau is a giant hypocrite. Which should be a surprise to no one.I think that you are the last person on these board to be calling anyone out for being a hypocrite. .. due to you calling everyone out for disrespecting harper and making a huge stink about respecting the PM and his office, yet all I see in your post is shiny-pony this sunny family that, entitled brat this. Your **** is old, get new material and try to contribute in a respectful and meaningful way. You have good, legit arguments- but your delivery is dreadful- like a poorman's brian lily. I disagree with you that I am the last person on these boards to be calling anyone out for being a hypocrite, being that Justin Trudeau just proved he is a giant hypocrite. Who cares who calls him out on it, he is one. You just don't have the balls to do it, because your **** is old too. This "material" is brand new. You are just mad that your boy is getting called out, finally And he should be called out, as he made a terrible decision. And you better get used to it. This is just the tip of the iceberg. You can crap on me with stupid comments like this, or you can knuckle down, and accept that you are now on the other side of the fence now. Attack me all you want, but its how it is now. You are playing defense, trying to defend a guy who obviously has no political acumen whatsoever. Embrace it, or shut the hell up.

Randorf shocked at the overturn and disagrees with it.

Anyone else find Randorf referring to Leaf players by their nicknames annoying?

I think this issue has proven more than that, namely that Trudeau is a giant hypocrite. Which should be a surprise to no one.

On Global National last night they reported that most world leaders showed up in Paris November 30th to pose for photo ops, and then left on December 1st, leaving the policy makers to hammer out an agreement. Not so with Sunny Family - they are apparently there until they feel like coming home.

and why are they both female? It's 2015 Justin.

We will see. I personally am loving it, watching all of the cry-babies now being forced into defensive mode. By that logic... does this make you and TUP the cry-babies now? Serious question, because that seems to be where your logic is taking us- other shoe and all. Edit: To be clear, I am not calling you two cry babies- you have valid concerns that you bring up- just your logic dictates that you might have inadvertently labeled yourself as such. LOL - I guess it does, if that's where the logic takes you. I am just surprised that all of the prior cry-babies that screamed constant blue murder about Harper are remaining "mum" on this subject. You honestly can't tell me that if this was Harper, getting elected on a platform where he scorned any rich people receiving benefits, and then accepting taxpayer cash to fund his child care, that you guys would just do this silent routine and shrug. No way in hell would you guys be doing that. So what gives? Are your political convictions really more important then your actual convictions?

If it's Islamic fundamentalists shouting "allah Akbar" we'll have to wait for someone other than the mainstream media to let us know.

The hypocrisy is more than interesting. It is stunning. But completely expected. Also to be expected, all of the anti-Harper faction to remain silent and just lump it, even though if it had been the other way around, they would be screaming for blood. Politics, in general, makes everyone into hypocrites, eventually.

When is JT back from his Paris climate party? He's got to get the wife and kiddies home too, as they all went to Paris with him on our dime, along with the nanny. He's far too concerned with the climate change fairy tale, and giving away control of Canada's economy to EU bureaucrats to be worried about nanny-gate right now. I would expect that he will hope that this whole thing blows over, and if not, Plan B, start paying for the nannies, then back-door expensing them back to the taxpayer.

We will see. I personally am loving it, watching all of the cry-babies now being forced into defensive mode.

Yeah these were my thoughts exactly. For 10 years all of the anti-Harper crew had it easy, just take whatever decision he made, or action he took, or word he said, and spin it to the negative, and if that failed, just make **** up and say that, and they were rarely challenged on it, or called out for out-right lying. It was a great job. Now the shoe is on the other foot. For four years (or more) all of those whiners and criers now have the difficult task of being on the defensive instead of the offensive. Not quite so exhilarating. Especially when the guy you are defending is known to be extremely gaffe-prone, and not really that politically astute. Welcome to your new role, defenders of the indefensible. How does it feel?

The plot sickens. Looks like the two nannies were being paid for by Trudeau personally, and now that he is PM he has moved their expenses to the taxpayer. AND it looks like Justin is paying them less than minimum wage. Yikes. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/trudeau-hires-his-childrens-former-nannies-to-work-in-official-residence

I just read that both nannies are female. I thought it was 2015.

I didn't realize that the management of the Jets was a democracy.

This is the first negative story I've seen in the media about Trudeau, in like, ever (other than Ezra's stuff). I wonder how "open and transparent" his government is going to be to the media if these kinds of stories keep popping up about him.

Agreed. Ofcourse. But it still rubs me the wrong way. Seems stereotypically elitist. Id feel that way of it was Harper. What does his wife do? Isn't she home from a recent birth? I wonder how the regular public manages to raise their children without two nannies. Well they do travel a lot. Has Trudeau been home more than 3 days since the election? Seems every time I see him on the news he is posing for selfies with adoring fans in either Turkey or Malta and now at the big Climate party in Paris. He probably needs a travel and stay at home nanny, depending on if the kids are coming. Like I said though, I don't begrudge him the cost. But I also didn't begrudge Harper the costs of bringing his own limo when the RCMP told him he needed to for security reasons.

I honestly don't begrudge Trudeau this cost, but on the other hand, did anyone expect him to back up his words with personal action? That's like asking David Suzuki to sell off one of his four houses.

Rogers Center is going all in on baseball I think. what else do they have?