kelownabomberfan

It's a change to the formula, not a "cut". It's semantic wordplay designed to sway the uninformed voter, which is standard NDP modus operandi.

Yup, I was hyping Marve, I admit it, and all I've seen so far is Justin Goltz 2.0. Argh.

well all right. That's actually given me something to think about. Thank you for that.

Then apologize for posting that Harper has cut $36 billion from health care spending in Canada, as it is a total lie, and you posted it. It's really simple. NOT TRUE!

Mike Hansen ‏@MikeHansen613 Aug 27 This is a serious #NDP candidate. I'm not joking. #meetthendp

This is the only part of your entire post that made much sense. You claim to know a lot about this area, and yet whenever you talk about it, you sound like a Marine biologist who doesn't understand why fish can breathe under-water. You can continue to insult me all you want, I don't care, but honestly, there are good reasons why stock options are taxed at 50%, even if you can't understand why that is. Instead of telling other people to visit the real world, perhaps you could re-visit the tax side of your apparent training, as right now you get an "F". As for constantly bleating about Harper and his deficits, I agree, he shouldn't have been running deficits in the past few years, and I think you would agree that at least part of that reason was the cut in the GST. I think that the Conservatives have made some bonehead decisions, for sure. However, look at who else ran in 2011. One guy lied about the fact that he was dying (Layton should have made full disclosure on that, and it was dishonest but typical NDP to deceive the voters) and the other guy was just visiting. But that's all past history. The big question is, and yet I still am not getting much of an answer, are the other two guys any better? At least Trudeau was honest, while Mulcair chose to lie, on the question of deficits. I think that the next few weeks, the NDP are heading back to oblivion where they belong, and Trudeau only gets stronger. As it should be. Post something that shows stock options are a common form of renumeration for Canadians. You cant. Because they arent. good grief, this is like talking to a piece of wood. Ok then, how about this? Why are stock options currently taxed at only 50%? Were the people that decided on this course of action just plain stupid? Is the NDP and people like you just so much smarter than everyone else? There must have been some logic to it. All I see from the NDP and you is bitterness towards others who receive this deduction, and some fixation with almond milk. If it's so dumb and only this small little band of evil rich people get the deduction, then why didn't the Liberals get rid of it back in Paul Martin's time? Just curious if you can figure it out, though I'm not holding my breath.

The group responsible for the lie that Mr. Dee has been parroting on here about "Health Care cuts" is now in trouble with Elections Canada. Go figure. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/lawn-signs-first-registration-second-for-health-care-advocacy-group-1.3208074

Ummm it was applied correctly, and ummm it showed how hypocritical you were to go after me just because I have the audacity to not like the NDP very much, when it's obvious the Dippers here are just as close-minded, and even more so, to the point of posting blatant lies to try and shore up their horrible party's position.

This is the only part of your entire post that made much sense. You claim to know a lot about this area, and yet whenever you talk about it, you sound like a Marine biologist who doesn't understand why fish can breathe under-water. You can continue to insult me all you want, I don't care, but honestly, there are good reasons why stock options are taxed at 50%, even if you can't understand why that is. Instead of telling other people to visit the real world, perhaps you could re-visit the tax side of your apparent training, as right now you get an "F". As for constantly bleating about Harper and his deficits, I agree, he shouldn't have been running deficits in the past few years, and I think you would agree that at least part of that reason was the cut in the GST. I think that the Conservatives have made some bonehead decisions, for sure. However, look at who else ran in 2011. One guy lied about the fact that he was dying (Layton should have made full disclosure on that, and it was dishonest but typical NDP to deceive the voters) and the other guy was just visiting. But that's all past history. The big question is, and yet I still am not getting much of an answer, are the other two guys any better? At least Trudeau was honest, while Mulcair chose to lie, on the question of deficits. I think that the next few weeks, the NDP are heading back to oblivion where they belong, and Trudeau only gets stronger. As it should be.

Actually, they are not supported by fact, and they are fabrications. We just exposed one of your many fabrications not too long ago in fact, in which you posted that Harper has cut $36 billion from health care. That's just pure unadulterated bullshit. And that's one of the main reasons I have a huge "bias" towards the NDP, they just lie, cheat and steal, constantly. I could go into an anecdote or two about the horror stories I head this weekend about the Manitoba NDP and the unbelievable mismanagement they are committing right now, according to people who are currently working inside the government, and I could talk about how a lot of NDP stooges are flocking to Alberta as the Alberta NDP ramps up hiring to vastly increase their government bureaucracy to become as bloated as Manitoba, but I know my story is going to somehow end up being re-spun about almond milk for some reason. I don't care if you don't want to vote for Harper, just don't for the horrible money-wasting economy-destroying NDP. They are a disease.

You can't be serious... Geez man, it seems sometimes, not always, that anytime a person posts something that runs counter to what you believe, you respond with these type statements. The hypocrisy is dripping here. I think some of us take more of an eclectic approach to politics and sensitive issues by not branding our ideologies as left, center or right. We take it issue by issue using the best facts available to form our perspectives. We sometimes don't get it right but always try to take an evidence-informed approach, identifying any bias's we may have a long the way. We can't brand ourselves with only one political strip but we can always aspire to be a sound critical thinker hopefully adding value to the discussion.

Yawn. Another wasted effort. Stick to what you know. I also suggest that you go out in the real world a bit more. Stating that stock options are just given out to executives just shows an ignorance that the NDP likes to exploit to create unfair tax policy.

I think that deficit spending in a recession isn't the best idea. I can see why it happens though, and the economic benefits of doing so. I think that the issue is much simpler though. Add back the two points that were shaved off the GST, and boom, deficit is erased. End of story. I am not sure why you wasted your time typing the rest. Why focus on me at all? Focus on the actual question. Bashing me is just stupid. Otherwise, thanks for making the effort, well worth the read.

Boy does Montreal have Hamilton's number.

Turns out Glen Johnson and I have more in common than I thought.

It sounds like you've spent too much time being lectured to by unions and leftist teachers/professors, who haven't actually ever been in the real world, or have a vested interest in lying to you to make you think that all corporations and management are evil and greedy. "Most places just give them to executives". No, that's just plain not true. At all. Have you ever worked for a public company? I spent 15 years in high tech, and every high tech company I worked for, public and private, made sure that all employees, from the secretary to the top, received a chance to share in the big prize if the stock price went up, via stock options. I know that the NDP like to peddle the fallacy that only "fat-cat" CEO's get stock options, but this is just plain a giant load of bullshit. Almost as big as saying that the Conservatives have cut $36 billion from health care spending. And stock options are taxed as income, but only 50% of the gain is taxable. There are valid reasons for this, but of course, if you believe the NDP garbage that "only the rich benefit" from stock options, it makes it an easier sell to the jealous and naive that they should be taxed at 100%. This is unnecessarily punishing hundreds of thousands of people, for no reason. This is one of the many reasons why I think the NDP is a giant smoking pile of hot garbage. All they do is lie. Constantly.

Excellent synopsis. And I snorted and laughed when you said the last sentence, as you sound like every Albertan I met this summer.

I asked a simple question - what are the other two guys doing that is better than this Harper guy - and all I got was another barf-back of the same tired propaganda that I've seen on a dozen other sites. I don't care about all the bad stuff Harper has supposedly done, I want to know that the other two guys aren't going to be even worse. So it may be counter to what I believe to just continue to post the same nonsense over and over again rather than post positive stuff about the other two guys when asked for positive stuff about the other two guys, but so what. That's my opinion, take it or leave it.

It's something that boggles my mind too. My brother and his wife are pretty much the poster family for income splitting and they certainly aren't wealthy. Yes he makes a good salary, but his wife doesn't and with 3 kids they don't have anything close to wealth. The people against income splitting are the low earners who think they should as a household with 2 low earners pay less tax than a household with the same income but the majority of that income coming from one person. The left is very petty when it comes to people having more than them. They won't like being called greedy but they are greedy. They want more than they have and want people with more to have less. This sums it up well for me. I get into arguments with a Dipper I know who is adamant that income from stock options be taxed at 100%, all because one guy she knows made a bunch of money on stock options, and she hates that guy. I point out to her that hundreds of thousands of Canadians have stock options, including even low income people I know who work for public companies, and policy aimed at going after a few rich guys that benefit ends up just punishing thousands of others who aren't rich, all out of pure spite and jealousy, with no real understanding of the taxation concepts behind why stock options are currently taxed at 50%. It is always to no avail. She is so blinded by hatred and jealousy she can't see the forest for the trees, which is a common trait among Dippers, I find. are you talking about capital gains? becuase I don't see how an employee of a public copmany would get stock options. No I am talking about when you exercise stock options. The difference between what you pay for the stock and what it is trading for on the stock exchange is taxed as income, but 50% of it is non-taxable, to give those who don't want to exercise and sell, but just exercise and hold, a break. It makes perfect sense. And I'm not sure what you mean by no employees of public companies get stock options. I've been an employee of several public companies, and I always have gotten stock options. A friend of mine has a big public company in Calgary and he makes sure everyone in his company, from the guys at the top all way down to the guys that work on the shop floor get stock options in his company, so that they can participate in the growth of the company and feel like they have a sense of ownership. It's a great policy, and a great way to retain good employees. Punishing them all with horrible tax policy just because you hate a rich guy who also received options is just so ass-backward, but that's the NDP way.

Donald Trump for President, with Joe Biden as VP. Every comedian in North America would die from the massive spontaneous orgasm they would have at that combo being in power.

ha that reminds me of my mom teaching elementary school in Winnipeg. One of the most confusing days was "career day" as a lot of the kids in class were third generation welfare kids and didn't understand how or why people would have jobs when the government just sends you money if you don't work.

can we bring Dile back at least? Morley on an emergency basis?

It's something that boggles my mind too. My brother and his wife are pretty much the poster family for income splitting and they certainly aren't wealthy. Yes he makes a good salary, but his wife doesn't and with 3 kids they don't have anything close to wealth. The people against income splitting are the low earners who think they should as a household with 2 low earners pay less tax than a household with the same income but the majority of that income coming from one person. The left is very petty when it comes to people having more than them. They won't like being called greedy but they are greedy. They want more than they have and want people with more to have less. This sums it up well for me. I get into arguments with a Dipper I know who is adamant that income from stock options be taxed at 100%, all because one guy she knows made a bunch of money on stock options, and she hates that guy. I point out to her that hundreds of thousands of Canadians have stock options, including even low income people I know who work for public companies, and policy aimed at going after a few rich guys that benefit ends up just punishing thousands of others who aren't rich, all out of pure spite and jealousy, with no real understanding of the taxation concepts behind why stock options are currently taxed at 50%. It is always to no avail. She is so blinded by hatred and jealousy she can't see the forest for the trees, which is a common trait among Dippers, I find.