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Interested to hear the leagues business pitch and revenue growth seen from having 1-3 extra American players on the field at a time. This whole thing is ridiculous. There’s basically nothing wrong with the ratio the way it has been aside from potentially discouraging teams from developing Canadian QB’s. Not sure why this is the fight the BOG wants to take all the way to risk a season.

There was no 7 + 1 offer from the league. It's not 7 AND, it's 7 with one spot being for an American with tenure. The first substantive offer that got the strike vote was 4 + 2, dropping the ratio to 6 players and scrapping QB designation. The offer that went to vote was 6 + 1 naturalized maintaining the 7 "Canadians" for the ratio but leaving the naturalized loophole for one spot and including starting QB's in the ratio, and then allowing a certain number of designated "naturalized" players to take some snaps in place of Canadians (the 49% rule which needs or needed a hell of a lot of refining). There are protected practice roster spots for Canadians generally, junior players and current year draft picks.

That’s kind of the problem with the fluff coverage. Who isn’t having a good camp?

The CFL does way too much navel gazing on the product and misses the big picture. Remember when they set the blocking rules on kick returns so that basically only a perfect block chest to chest was legal? They overcomplicate things to the point of stupidity. That’s my major issue with this roster rule change. How the hell do you administer these rules? Take away one DI (won’t matter anyway if all the punters are Aussies), add two Canadian roster spots and axe the ratio completely. Now the refs can call a football game instead of having subs reporting constantly, and you’ll have the same number of Canadians playing. Is anyone worried that 20 imports will play the entire game on a 46ish man roster?

If anyone signed to a contract could vote for a union contract it would be way too easy for the league/employer to bust the union. Usually it is spelled out in the CBA who is a voting member and it would be completely ridiculous if camp bodies who aren’t even vested in any of the union benefits (see the 6th round pick who’s never played who gets hurt and cut on the spot) could dictate the next CBA. Yeah they could, but realistically the league wasn’t offering much monetarily. The players will end up paying for the increased benefits if their cost grows faster than league revenue.

The PA might want to consider having a more representative bargaining committee in the future. Having a bunch of American players leading the way with the administrators probably led to this. Don't want to go to members with a deal you expect to be ratified and have it voted down.

Hopefully Lawler finds better things to do than driving while impaired.

You must be thinking of someone else. The best play call Lapo had for Brink was QB draw, ran a base RPO offense when he started and he also ran our short-yardage offense in 2011. But he couldn't pass at all mostly because he throw half the balls into the dirt cause he'd never set his feet.

Reminds me a lot of Alex Brink. If he can't calm his legs down to pass he won't do much when throwing the ball against pros when he inevitably needs to do so from the pocket. Mechanics are awful because he's never set even when in the pocket, more of a heave than a pass.

Hardrick is 32. He's not the LT of the future here. I also don't expect Gray to play much past his 30th birthday, he's very much year-to-year. Enjoy the great team we have, worry about the future later.

The roster change isn't until 2023 so the lists are moot.

I think we're at a point with the way the game is played and everyone on the roster having a role on O or D aside from only 2-3 guys per team (and a kicker or two) that the ratio could go by the wayside. To be clear by "ratio" I mean the declare 7 Canadian starters, DI's and QB's. If anything add one to the roster, a Canadian, and drop one DI for another Canadian. At that point teams are basically locked in to starting 6-7 Canadians for sure with more guys being role players. Nobody plays every down anymore particularly on D, you've got maybe one LB and 2-3 DB's who play every down.

So is there a weekly snap count audit to make sure everyone is compliant? They really need to work on simplifying the roster juggling and not making it more convoluted.

The players weren't on strike and were at the table. The league left the table and put out that email/tweet and then the players took the strike action. Yes the vote was in their back pocket. The league hit the red button when they were closest to getting a deal done. Pretty unbelievable given what's happened (or not happened) over the past two years with the leadership of this league struggling to even figure out how to play games. More cancelled games.

Did you notice that they are on strike? There's no incentive for them to end the strike before the end of preseason. Without that letter I guarantee they come out Monday morning with an agreement. Just an awful read of the situation and terrible tactic at the worst possible time. The letter is total disrespect for the players and the fact they are organized into a union. It galvanized them when the deal was about 90% done and players wanting to get going.

The BOG completely screwed themselves over with Ambrosie's letter to the players around the PA. Why would any vets, PA members, suit up for preseason now? As Naylor states there, the revenue from those games is all for the owners not the players.

Sign a 10 year CBA to "see how things unfold over the next couple of years." We've all heard Suitor talk enough to know he isn't very clever but now it's confirmed in print.

Ambrosie brought us a draft for Australian punters and labour strife. How much longer does he get?

They want a deal but don't give two shits about having it in place before game 1. The preseason games only benefit ownership. Now there's good reason for the PA to utilize their legal strike position to drag their feet.

Find us a link then. Naylor and Lalji dug up the memo. There's no tweet or anything else from the CFLPA. Sure that memo goes out knowing it will be public. What Ambrosie did was to try to go around the PA to communicate with their members directly. There's no reason now for the PA to come back to the table for weeks, he ensured a work stoppage. And further to how stupid this all is on the league side, there's nothing in that proposal that benefits current PA members anyway.

The players or the bargaining committee? Big difference. They sent a communication to their members (the players) RE the proposed elimination of the ratio. Yes that eventually leaked. What Ambrosie did was completely different and way off-base in a bargaining process.

Walking out of bargaining after dropping a take it or leave it offer and then releasing that offer on social media is pretty much as low as it gets RE bargaining in bad faith. While proposing partnerships with the PA Ambrosie is simultaneously and transparently trying to turn the public and perhaps the membership against the PA. Clearly the CFL led by Ambrosie has given up on bargaining.

Ambrosie is just a terrible leader. Is he trying to win a PR battle or go around the CFLPA bargaining committee? No wonder he has trouble closing.

4 years, 56 passes attempted. Still a rookie.

If they remove the "ratio," meaning the 7 Canadian starters, what would the effect be? Basically simplifies roster management. Anyone on the roster can be on the field at any time. You would still need a good amount of Canadians playing O and D. I would be in favour of this if they flipped two import spots to Canadian roster spots. That would ensure you have at least 5 Canadians consistently getting snaps on O and D. Realistically with the size of rosters almost everyone will get some reps, you have kickers and maybe 3-4 guys who only play special teams.