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Marve looked past his first read a ton, I mean about 70% of his completed passes were scrambles. He struggles in the pocket, and that's what your seeing with the wobblers and bad accuracy. He needs to settle his lower body down when he throws in the pocket, on any throw he makes where he's not on the run. He's got a really frantic passing motion but it's entirely from his lower half, he's got a real nice arm action. Accuracy/time it takes to get there sucks because he's taking himself away from his target with the lower body movement when he should be finishing towards the target ideally. We can do without the chuck and duck bomb tosses and throws across his body on the run though. The sandlot stuff is good for a couple of exciting plays a game, but really not going to get anything done consistently. Also looked like Marve had a pretty bad bump/bruise/nick on his throwing hand for a good chunk of the 2nd half. All that said, the difference in the game was again a big special teams breakdown on a horribly placed punt by Hajrullahu.

I doubt that play was called from the sideline. Seemed like a very chaotic hurry-up situation, I was surprised they got into a legal formation with how chaotic it was.

Couldn't challenge. No timeout

They should invest in radar so powerful they can tell exactly where the storm cloud will hit and open up. But an Old Boys Club would never make that kind of investment, they are too busy being best buds.

Wasn't that when he was already an OC? He's just a QB coach now, so he should be ready to listen. No, that's when he was a QB coach for the Roughriders. We offered him OC and he said no, that he wanted to be HC. I'm not sure what happened after that, but he took a job OCing in BC instead of coming here. Then when they hired Cortez, they made Cortez OC and QB Coach, and they demoted Khari and now he's Receivers Coach, not a QB Coach. They didn't offer Khari Jones anything. It was heavily rumoured that Miller preferred him for certain jobs, but that was essentially baseless and founded on the fact that they have a personal relationship, idle gossip. He interviewed for OC prior to last season and O'Shea decided to stick with Bellefeuille. Why are people making things up about Khari Jones now? Sorry, I didn't mean we offered him OC, I meant he interviewed for it. And I'm not making things up. Many of the guys in the media stated that he wanted HC position and wouldn't come here for just the OC position (take that for what it's worth considering it's the Winnipeg media). The only place I've ever heard or read this is on this message board.

Mostly because if Cato's first read isn't there he's leaving the pocket regardless of how much time he has. Feel bad for those OL, it's the worst blocking for a QB with happy feet like that because you never know what he's doing. You could have a great pocket and then the idiot runs right into the pass rusher that you've blocked perfectly.

Wasn't that when he was already an OC? He's just a QB coach now, so he should be ready to listen. No, that's when he was a QB coach for the Roughriders. We offered him OC and he said no, that he wanted to be HC. I'm not sure what happened after that, but he took a job OCing in BC instead of coming here. Then when they hired Cortez, they made Cortez OC and QB Coach, and they demoted Khari and now he's Receivers Coach, not a QB Coach. They didn't offer Khari Jones anything. It was heavily rumoured that Miller preferred him for certain jobs, but that was essentially baseless and founded on the fact that they have a personal relationship, idle gossip. He interviewed for OC prior to last season and O'Shea decided to stick with Bellefeuille. Why are people making things up about Khari Jones now?

The one about the "old boys club" of Miller, Walters and O'Shea, which is laughable. People are really expecting mid-season firings with a 3-4 record? Lapolice had an interesting point on 1290 yesterday about developing quarterbacks in Winnipeg. Hopefully the mob doesn't turn on Marve when he struggles, which is almost 100% certain.

Walters & O'Shea along with Miller are triplets. I doubt anyone gets fired. They're all good friends. You're really committed to this conspiracy eh?

Or how much playing a team with no offence at all helps.

If Montreal had any offense the game would have been over by halftime. Edmonton repeatedly handed the Als the ball.

Too bad you can't challenge offensive PI. Holy hell did Bailey ever push off on that big play that's probably going to win Edmonton the game.

87 on Edmonton is getting away with some pretty huge push offs, hard to sympathize with Montreal though as SJ Green has made a career of that.

Willy, Adams, Cotton, Gibson all placed on 6 game.

Big assumption there is that we have 4 healthy import receivers who are better than the NI's. We don't. Also the "starting" 8 NI's doesn't limit how they use the imports at all.Well if we don't dress the import cause we are going to play 8 can then I'm not sure you understand the argument.Last week we were going to go with 4 imports when Moore was gonna dress but instead of dressing jhomo Gordon when Moore couldn't play we went back to 3 imp Rev 2 Cnd get it?BTW if you think dressing jfg over veltung is the way to go not much more I can say to ya really.The Bombers are playing the maximum number of imports allowed. Starting 8 Canadians doesn't change that. I don't prefer JFG to Veltung, but I prefer him to Jhomo Gordon, who is a project to put it mildly. Having Jhomo Gordon on the roster last week wouldn't have made a lick of difference. I feel bad for you if you truly are just judging CFL players by their passports. Gordon was terrible in both preseason games. Hopefully he's learned how to run his routes and read the defense to get open and on the same page as his QB in the last couple months.Well MOS is playing Jhomo instead of going with Jfg and Kohler as starters with another can as a backup.So your liking Jfg over jhomo is not seen by the Blue coaches.I like Jfg but his speed doesn't scare anyone. Feoli-Gudino and Kohlert are in the exact same positions they were last week. The depth chart is on page 1 of this thread. Gordon is in for Adams.

Or Lavarias and Hebert are healthy and better football players right now. Sam being cut is very likely, he was horrible last week.

To be fair, Willy has been guilty of this in the past as well. Guys with little mobility run into those problems just as often. I've never seen Willy bail out of a perfect pocket like I've seen Cato do a half dozen times already in this game.

Cato showing the perils of a guy who can't or won't do much from the pocket. Perfect pass pro and he runs into a sack.

Big assumption there is that we have 4 healthy import receivers who are better than the NI's. We don't. Also the "starting" 8 NI's doesn't limit how they use the imports at all. Well if we don't dress the import cause we are going to play 8 can then I'm not sure you understand the argument.Last week we were going to go with 4 imports when Moore was gonna dress but instead of dressing jhomo Gordon when Moore couldn't play we went back to 3 imp Rev 2 Cnd get it?BTW if you think dressing jfg over veltung is the way to go not much more I can say to ya really. The Bombers are playing the maximum number of imports allowed. Starting 8 Canadians doesn't change that. I don't prefer JFG to Veltung, but I prefer him to Jhomo Gordon, who is a project to put it mildly. Having Jhomo Gordon on the roster last week wouldn't have made a lick of difference. I feel bad for you if you truly are just judging CFL players by their passports. Gordon was terrible in both preseason games. Hopefully he's learned how to run his routes and read the defense to get open and on the same page as his QB in the last couple months.

If Veltung is actually healthy, Gordon better be excellent. Veltung has been such a reliable target for the QB's.

Actually our DL has been excellent for the last month, all without Peach, a couple without Turner. It was terrible with them.

Pass interference in general is so poorly applied, inconsistent. They need to make it really simple. If a DB is not playing the ball, has no idea where the ball is, facing the other direction, any contact needs to be flagged. If a DB is playing the ball, some contact should be allowed with consideration to timing of the arrival of the pass. Obviously it's never going to be purely black and white, but they need to move the needle in that direction.

Interesting that Glen Johnson admitted today that in the Montreal game the Sutton TD should not have been called a TD as the ball didn't cross the plane. Play was reviewed, was a scoring play, still couldn't get it right. Also think it was one the line judge on the field didn't quite see as he was scrambling to not get hit and just called a TD so they would review it. Time to take the "undisputable evidence" piece out of the reviews and just make the right call? Probably make the officials on the field do their jobs in a way that relies less on having the safety net of replay too.

If that's the case, how bad is Goossen that he can't replace a guy with a broken thumb who was basically letting DT's take free runs at Willy?

In terms of reliability for a young QB, I'd take Feoli-Gudino over Jhomo Gordon 10 times out of 10.