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Did Dr Nick do Cornish's cast? That's an awful huge production for a broken thumb.

Why the hell do teams keep signing Dobson Collins?

Any QB who can break a tackle has "potential" whether or not they can pass.

Exactly. They made a choice to not really pursue retaining a player. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but a choice was made much like Saskatchewan chose to keep Durant knowing Willy would pursue an opportunity to start.

How did the Riders not let Willy walk? They chose to keep Durant as their starter and not give Willy the money or opportunity. They didn't try to keep him. That's letting him walk IMO, similar to how the Bombers let a guy like Geroy Simon "walk."

Mr Dee is right about the referee on the Willy hit. He needs to step up to keep his eyes on his main responsibility which is the QB when he has the ball until he's completed his throwing motion or crossed the line of scrimmage. I am sure that Kim Murphy got called out for that missed call and his poor positioning on that play by the supervisor in Edmonton.

He went Galapagos last night.

Disagree with those three. He really has to step into his throws to get anything on them, and good luck having room to do that consistently. Compare his throws to Willy's last night, Willy made a bunch of tough, tough throws with Picard in his lap. Smith needs to take two steps to have any hope of making those throws. His throwing motion doesn't help, big wind-up and tends to sail throws. Can't say I've seen one quick decision from Smith, he's running around like a headless chicken for the most part.

That is the allure of the "fake the kick, throw it to Sherman" trick play. Unfortunately this is the second year running that play has failed. Didn't fail last year. Even though it was 3rd and 21, if the other wideout makes a block on Adekolu, who is a receiver, it's a big play.

Veltung is a weapon on offense, and just a solid receiver in terms of routes and hands. Has been everytime he's stepped on the field back to pre-season. I hope they don't take him out. Personally I'd prefer him as a returner and receiver over Stoudermire as a returner if it comes down to that to get Moore back on the roster. Bass has stepped it up the last couple games. Nice to see him turning the plays to the weak-side into the middle now and pursuing all over the field.

But after way too many steamboats. That play had way too much time to materialize, which put the DB/safety in a bind. BC a few times ran a three man attack on us and they get a sack. Lulay's a mobile QB who moves around a lot. Lulay, for the most part, had time to go threw his reads last night, at least that's what I saw. I yelled at the TV a lot because of that. All I'm saying is out of all the areas needed to improve our defense, as this is a passing league, that would be my number one, because everything else dominoes from there. I think the commentators mentioned last night we're eighth in passes completed against. You must count fast. They know that BC is going downfield with the ball, so priority one is to hold the rush lanes so Lulay can't slip out and run for 20 yards because the LB's and DB's will be clearing out in coverage, then get pressure upfield. Gibson was in the backfield all night and the refs probably could have called BC's tackles for a dozen holds on him. I believe they called about 5 on Gibson, many were declined. Thomas was a monster against the run, but crashing into the pocket too. Nobody can block Collins and it's clear that he's picking up how to play the yard of the ball and the wider gaps. Johnson played all over the field, end, 3 technique and linebacker. If our DL plays like that every game the defense won't be giving up many points and will probably be scoring some, or at least turning the ball over so our offence can score easily.

CJOB should go to all news. To be honest, everyone I know who wants those interest type programs listen to CBC. Also listen to CBC for news in the morning. I don't think CJOB needs shows like Adler and Dahlia. I think a station that read the news and gave traffic/weather in 5 minutes 5-6 times an hour 24-7-365 would do well in Winnipeg now. I'm thinking like 680 News in Toronto.

Ryan Smith is NDSU.

Newman's playing?

Crazy to me that Smith plays over Sunseri. Sunseri at least gives them some hope of having an offence, they wouldn't even call a passing play for Smith in the 4th Q vs Hamilton. Seems very personal with Chamblin and Sunseri.

Believe what they want to believe? I guess I choose to believe in reading comprehension.

You want Wild covering slotbacks all game?

In this case, it's Wiececk's verbage and not a quote from O'Shea himself.Did you miss where he says Oshea said this?Man do you need to be there to believe? Are the reporters twisting and lying now to make Oshea look bad? It's Wiecek's interpretation/summation of what O'Shea actually said, which was that Marve hasn't been able to take reps for 2 weeks.

Same for BLM and Reilly. The Eskimos move the pocket a lot and have a lot of designed QB run plays, but Reilly isn't doing a lot of improvising. Really I think this is backwards. With the amount of stuff that QB's have to run through pre-snap now, if you can't throw from the pocket you just won't last. People complain about guys locking into their first read, but 95% of the reading of the defense is done by the time the QB has the ball. There are guys who scramble, but they can throw from the pocket too, although a guy like Collaros really struggles when teams keep him in there all night, the Montreal game is a good example. His arm isn't in the same league as Willy, Reilly, Harris, BLM. I also think that all QB's can run now. There isn't a QB in the CFL that is a pure pocket passer, even Glenn and Ray will take off and run for a first down a couple times a game to keep a defense honest. 20 years ago QB's were more scrambler or pocket passer.

They have been awful, and led to a lot of scrambling/hurries (combined with Picard getting carried to Willy) because Willy has to take that extra second to get control of them taking his eyes off the route where they should be. Let Picard wear a golf shirt and be OL mentor, around in case of injury. Goossen can't be worse, time to let him play. Neufeld for Greaves is truly a rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic situation. Let's hope we aren't counting on either one to help us next season.

You guys do realize that there is only one practice this week, right?

I don't think Bellefool has the imagination to run an offence like that. He did in Hamilton. Remember Marcus Thigpen? Can't remember if it was 2009 or 2010 but Hamilton basically won a game against us because our defense had no answer for Thigpen and I think Cobourne, maybe Cobb, in split backs both running and passing.

Considering how little the team wins that's a hollow claim. Context being after decades of incompetence people around here understandably get pissed off after losses. Listen to cjob post game. You and other self proclaimed level headed posters are the vast minority. Head in sand works for some, I guess. If you truly think callers to talk radio represent the majority of anything you're killing your own credibility.

Our offensive line is not better, it's more expensive for sure. Our quarterback is moving the ball out faster when he isn't picking a snap off the top of his cleats. Our offensive line is pathetic. We have two guys who either aren't able to or just aren't doing their jobs in terms of blocking in Greaves and Picard. Chungh works really hard and has lots of potential, but still learning. Tackles have been good, but doesn't matter much when your interior is getting blown back into the QB's throwing motion a dozen times a game. Having watched Picard for years I believe he now has negative value when he's on the field. The best thing about him was always his consistent snapping, and now that's not so hot either. He's always been SOL if he gets isolated by a DT. Our running backs are mostly on their own, if they are lucky our 5 OL can handle the 3-4 guys in the first level.

I've been a Bomber fan for some 40 plus years and I've been there through good seasons and bad. With that experience, it gets easier to see when a team is going though a rough stretch and with little hope for improvement in the short term. By the way, I was complimentary to the 'Cats as well, but they have not been the subject of ridicule in this forum as the Riders have. I was comparing the effort and execution of the Riders to the Bombers in their most recent games, and that is a valid comparison. The Riders looked as resigned to the fact they were going to lose once the game got to 28-21 as the Bombers did when Willy went down. They wouldn't even let their backup QB throw the ball.