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I have a lot of respect for your football knowledge. That being said, I have been watching CFL football for 40 years or so. Brohm is awful. Marve has more innate talent then i've seen in any quarterback in the CFL since Tom Clements or Matt Dunigan. He was born to play in this league. If the Winnipeg coaches can't see that, it will cost them their jobs. That's insane hyperbole. You think Marve has more talent than a guy like Collaros? Marve has shown very little to get excited about as a quarterback at this point is his career, even going back to NCAA. He's always been a guy with tools but no toolbox, and that's where I'd still put him based on what we saw in pre-season. If a QB can't stand and deliver at even a basic level of consistency, he has no chance to beat a pro defense or even a high level NCAA one. There's a difference between guys like Collaros who improvise at times but stay on time in terms of reads and progressions the majority of the time and a guy like Marve who takes one look downfield and panics, either "scrambles" or tosses a ball with his lower body in constant motion killing his accuracy regardless of how big his arm is. Marve is still very far away from being an effective CFL QB, the tools are there, I'll agree with that, but that's about 1/3 of what a good QB needs. Marve would have got killed tonight. There's a difference between running ability and mobility in the pocket, and that difference is an intelligence Marve doesn't have yet. Would have been more exciting for sure, but running away from your blocks when 6-7 guys are coming consistently is not effective.
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Brohm is the best backup QB we've had since Pat Barnes. The irrational love affair with Marve is just silly. Just look at what happened when he had a chance to pass, granted it's one play, but it's an option read pass play and he was so indecisive between deciding to run or pass that he just about handed the Tabbies 2 free points. Marve is not ready to play and everyone has the book on him. Just look at how Hamilton played him at the end of the pre-season game, fill the gaps with a delayed rush and make him use his brain and his arm. Marve will be the next guy under the bus if he gets a shot. He's got potential, but if we're looking at him to play this season we are screwed and so is he. Brohm gives us a chance to win, and it was good to see him pull the team out of the stunned stagger it was in after Willy went out. Bellefeuille called a real shitty game both protection wise and in terms of attacking the blitz. No screens in behind the blitz, no draws, only a few flat footed screens to wide receivers in the 2nd half. Really poor gameplan and basically no adjustments until halftime. Should not take that long to make those adjustments in protection, even if it is to go into max protect and leave 7 blockers in. Only took our QB getting killed and Brohm getting rocked about 3 times before the end of the 1st half to make that adjustment. I didn't think Brohm would survive that half either. Would be nice if Picard could make a block when he gets isolated too, but it's been 9 years and he still can't manage that. Cotton is a hell of a player, but featuring him in the downfield passing game is clearly going to lead to turnovers. Sask dropped a gimme INT on a downfield pass to him in Regina, and Stewart got a touchdown off one today that Cotton barely even waved at. Bellefeuille needs to do better than what he did tonight.
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[MERGED] July 2 Game Thread (Depth Charts included)
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think it'll be Morgan. Lots of his body type on the roster, and they used Cronk quite a bit on offense as a tight end. -
[MERGED] July 2 Game Thread (Depth Charts included)
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Gibson or Johnson. Why would they dress an extra non-import? They need to sit one import and one NI for the 44. -
[MERGED] July 2 Game Thread (Depth Charts included)
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Veltung, Marshall, Shell and one of the DL. Tyler and a NI will sit, probably Brown or Morgan. Both the DL - 8 Canadians means 5 backup Americans One wouldn't be a DI though and could sub in with no restrictions. I'm guessing one of Gibson or D Johnson are it, and I'm guessing the Bombers are only declaring 2 NI starters on D. Wouldn't see an upside to using that extra Canadian, backup American without DI restrictions on offense with Veltung or Marshall. -
Hurl - O'Shea; Mentor - Protege: Cloning ?
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
To me Hurl looked lost .... continously in the wrong place That's how Bass looked to me, continuously letting the ball get past his outside shoulder on the stretch plays to the weak-side for Allen and Messam. They weren't running at Hurl, and when they did the runs went nowhere. They really attacked the weak-side, Anderson, Westerman, Bass for the most part. -
[MERGED] July 2 Game Thread (Depth Charts included)
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Veltung, Marshall, Shell and one of the DL. Tyler and a NI will sit, probably Brown or Morgan. -
I agree on Bass. In watching the game again, that's the guy the Riders were really attacking, and Bass did a horrible job of gap control on the stretch/read plays, letting all those runs get outside away from where he has help. Bass is obviously learning to play the width of the field, but he better learn fast or he should be off the field. Hurl was not that bad, he didn't really have a chance to make a lot of plays because of how easy it was to get to the sideline on the weak-side of our defense. The big passing plays were both huge busts off of blitzes that were totally ineffective. Hard to blame the guys in coverage on those, if you're sending 6 or more at the QB and can't even make him change his launch point the guys blitzing have not done their job.
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Hurl - O'Shea; Mentor - Protege: Cloning ?
JuranBoldenRules replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I don't believe we should overrate Bass and toss a guy like Randle under the bus based on what we've seen. Randle is playing a coverage position. Other than one cover zero blitz where our safety and MLB did not do anything to disrupt Durant, Randle had a clean game. The Riders run game primarily attacked the weak-side of our defense with stretch plays, and Bass didn't really stand up to it. The DL also had a lot of trouble holding their gaps which shift on those stretch plays. Once the Riders started trying to run between the tackles, the run game fizzled out. -
On Demski's run too, gave him about 20 extra yards.
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The Bombers scored a TD on the drive resulting from the called back return, so no impact on the score.
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The Day Early Game Day Thread - WPG @ SSK
JuranBoldenRules replied to voodoochylde's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Anderson got destroyed by a down block on the huge run off a stretch play by Messam. If he gets in his gap on that stretch play that run can't happen. That's the kind of stuff that was happening all night. He got close to Glenn once and forced a bad throw, but had a really bad night overall. -
The injured Canadians will absolutely gut them. They have no replacements.
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source? The Roughriders.
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Probably likes to see how the Riders attack the different coverage shells, what blocking schemes they are using and their sub packages. Can't really see that from field level and they don't get the overhead pictures like the NFL.
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The Day Early Game Day Thread - WPG @ SSK
JuranBoldenRules replied to voodoochylde's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Ask him if Glenn has completed 88% of his passes in a quarter, let alone a game. -
Didn't see much of Sherman/Newman/Waggoner on D. Hope that shifts. We could hedge our bet on Hurl and spread the snaps around if we shift that NI spot more to WIL. Hurl on first down, one of the others in dime.
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The Day Early Game Day Thread - WPG @ SSK
JuranBoldenRules replied to voodoochylde's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
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One was our own LB providing a bust in coverage, and I'd be curious to see how the new safety graded out. On the long TD pass he was blitzing along with Hurl, cover 0 and Durant read it pre-snap. Randle was playing Smith inside shade and Smith broke outside deep, no chance for Randle to cover him with no help over the top. Bigger problem with that play was how ineffective that blitz was, didn't even force Durant to move the launch point. If you're late on a cover 0 blitz, it's over Johnny. Deion Sanders in his prime would be tough to stop that. Hurl's gap opened up wide based on the twist run by the DL, he was just way too slow to have any effect on Durant.
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One was our own LB providing a bust in coverage, and I'd be curious to see how the new safety graded out. On the long TD pass he was blitzing along with Hurl, cover 0 and Durant read it pre-snap. Randle was playing Smith inside shade and Smith broke outside deep, no chance for Randle to cover him with no help over the top. Bigger problem with that play was how ineffective that blitz was, didn't even force Durant to move the launch point to give the DB's a chance to make a play.
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It was driving me crazy hearing the announcers just swooning over Messam. The guy has a huge lane with nobody in front of him for yards and he's all of a sudden a top 10 player in the league. Give me a break And he can't handle more than 8 carries a game. Although Cornish is trending that way too.
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It ran out last season. Once guys start getting serious leg and shoulder injuries they are never the same.
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Our DL needs less Peach and Westerman, more Gibson and Johnson. Sad to say based on what he's getting paid, but Westerman should be rotating with Thomas, probably about 60-40.
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Not on the one that knocked him out of the game, but he did have a couple others that fit that^ description.
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Got hit low after he threw a pass in the pocket by a falling DL. Probably ACL.