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Problem is unlike Willy and Brohm, Marve isn't naturally a pocket QB so he has a bigger learning curve to overcome to fit in to Marcel's scheme. I'm not sure it is in the best interest of the Bombers or Marve to try to convert him to this role as I prefer the flexibility he offers with his motion when the need arises to use him. Watching the beat down cement foot Sunseri took from the Esks. last night (5 sacks) indicates how vulnerable a pocket passer can be against certain D schemes. Brett Smith who played prior to Sunseri was able to scramble to avoid the rush, looked good and was not sacked even once. Even with an improved O-line whoever the Bombers play has to be able to evacuate the pocket in order to succeed against a team pinning it's ears back to kill the QB. They will not survive the game otherwise. Hopefully Willy can adapt as the Bombers play the Esks. in week five and it could get ugly. Doesn't matter what kind of QB is behind center when a OL is playing as bad as the guys Saskatchewan had in during most of the 3rd and 4th quarters last night. Plus Edmonton started blitzing like crazy with many experienced CFL players still on their D against guys on Sask who won't be in the CFL long. On several of those sacks Sunseri was scrambling. Leaving the pocket early actually makes it a lot easier for a blitz to affect a QB, as counter intuitive as that might seem. It's not an either or situation though. There's a reason why basically all of the great QB's in recent CFL history can throw effectively from the pocket and move effectively within the structure of the offense and at times when they need to. It's what beats defenses consistently regardless of how they scheme. Marve has a long way to go with his brain and arm to even be a serviceable QB. Marve has been a highly serviceable and effective QB so far, regardless of his style of play. Brohm has a longer way to go, plus he's older. So you'd feel comfortable going into this season with Marve as your starting QB if you were running a team based on what you've seen from him to this point? Versus say having a guy like Kevin Glenn or Drew Tate, guys I would call serviceable.

No one said it's only about the game evaluation. The TC evaluation is ongoing. Every snap. Every nuance. Every day. I don't want a team of guys who are 'close to sticking around for the second week of TC'. I want to focus our time and effort on guys who have a real chance to make the team and especially those who have a real chance to be difference makers. You have a very distorted view of what a training camp is. The guys who they are discussing at this cutdown who will be on the field tomorrow have a chance to make the team.

Problem is unlike Willy and Brohm, Marve isn't naturally a pocket QB so he has a bigger learning curve to overcome to fit in to Marcel's scheme. I'm not sure it is in the best interest of the Bombers or Marve to try to convert him to this role as I prefer the flexibility he offers with his motion when the need arises to use him. Watching the beat down cement foot Sunseri took from the Esks. last night (5 sacks) indicates how vulnerable a pocket passer can be against certain D schemes. Brett Smith who played prior to Sunseri was able to scramble to avoid the rush, looked good and was not sacked even once. Even with an improved O-line whoever the Bombers play has to be able to evacuate the pocket in order to succeed against a team pinning it's ears back to kill the QB. They will not survive the game otherwise. Hopefully Willy can adapt as the Bombers play the Esks. in week five and it could get ugly. Doesn't matter what kind of QB is behind center when a OL is playing as bad as the guys Saskatchewan had in during most of the 3rd and 4th quarters last night. Plus Edmonton started blitzing like crazy with many experienced CFL players still on their D against guys on Sask who won't be in the CFL long. On several of those sacks Sunseri was scrambling. Leaving the pocket early actually makes it a lot easier for a blitz to affect a QB, as counter intuitive as that might seem. It's not an either or situation though. There's a reason why basically all of the great QB's in recent CFL history can throw effectively from the pocket and move effectively within the structure of the offense and at times when they need to. It's what beats defenses consistently regardless of how they scheme. Marve has a long way to go with his brain and arm to even be a serviceable QB.

They aren't just evaluating the game. Why wouldn't you take an extra few practices to have a look at guys who are very close competing to stick around for a couple more weeks and a shot at the main roster if you have the chance?

Hard to evaluate Sunseri based on the reps he got last night. Couldn't even get his eyes downfield before the Eskimos were on top of him. If the Riders cut him, I'd be interested in having him over whichever one of Marve or Portis is ranked lower by our coaches.

Saskatchewan is one OL injury away from a disaster of a season. No depth.

Why does it include non-counters? They don't count towards the roster limit.

That was an interesting point. One of the biggest things I'm looking for with the new rule is how they handle the "physical" receivers and some of the picks set downfield to open up space. Rule should go both ways if they are going to be strict. I don't necessarily agree with Milt because in the couple of pre-season games I've watched there hasn't been any huge difference IMO and big targets are always good, even against zone. In fact having guys with more "catch radius" could save a lot of INT's vs zone defense.

They've basically decided that Hurl is MLB, so having 3 NI's on the field on D at all times with a MLB, CB and WIL/DL/DB seems like it could happen. If it does I assume they'll have 4 import receivers on the roster, might only "start" 3 if they want to start more than 7 NI's.

Two stints, 3 full seasons.

There's also a relatively long standing tradition of early season games having difficulty selling league-wide and interest really picking up at Labour Day, kind of when people settle back into their working lives and spend less time at the cottage. That may have shifted in recent years a bit. To me, this issue is really low on the issues facing the league, and the potential to be damaging to the brand is more than the potential of it really making any difference at all.

It's understandable. I'm leery of someone who says they don't want extra attention just wants to play football, yet signs up for a reality tv show and agrees to hold a press conference announcing his signing in Montreal. I think if he really didn't want extra attention he might have asked what happens when every other American player who washed out of the NFL before even playing a meaningful game signs in the CFL and said let's do that. I respect that he's being open and there's a risk in that, but it's pretty clear that the media attention is something he's playing into at this point, not trying to avoid.Reality show aside, we had a press conference when we signed Westerman. High profile NFL players get attention. Westerman is a non import who actually played in the NFL, and a virtual lock to make the roster, one of our highest paid players. Apples to oranges.

Who said anything about getting rid of fall football? Its the winter football that sucks. From a business perspective it makes a lot of sense. What's attendance like in Late October? There is infinitely more opportunity to sell out a couple of June ganes then give away free tickets in late October or early November. Winter starts December 21. June is usually a combo of oppressive heat and storms when the cold fronts finally appear. I don't think it's necessarily an easier sell than October for regular season. Meaningful games in October and November will sell in most CFL cities, and where they don't sell changing the schedule would make little difference.

It's understandable. I'm leery of someone who says they don't want extra attention just wants to play football, yet signs up for a reality tv show and agrees to hold a press conference announcing his signing in Montreal. I think if he really didn't want extra attention he might have asked what happens when every other American player who washed out of the NFL before even playing a meaningful game signs in the CFL and said let's do that. I respect that he's being open and there's a risk in that, but it's pretty clear that the media attention is something he's playing into at this point, not trying to avoid.

No. Marsh's injury doesn't change much, he's third string. If they weren't comfortable with Crompton and LeFevour the time to look for another QB was months ago.

O'Shea is actually one of the best at answering actual football questions, along with Lapolice. If you call in with a thoughtful question to his show or a reporter gives him one he'll get into it. He just does not get into politics whatsoever, and that's all he gets asked by the media here.

I'm not a fan. I prefer fall football to June football.

Run blocking was not bad last year, rarely is at this level. Marve is very good at the off-guard play, but that wastes a lot of steps behind the LOS and gives the defence a time to make a play behind the LOS. From watching Portis attempt a couple sneaks in Toronto, he has no idea how to do it either. It's rarely used in American football, but is a staple of Canadian football. Needs to be taught.

Marve was bad at sneaks last year and our base short-yardage play shifted to the riskier off-guard play rather than a play that is safe and should be quite easy in a sneak. Another good point about our QB situation, we either need someone who can sneak or need to work more at teaching the guys we have to do it well.

It's a sign that the 2 QB's who played the majority of the game are extremely lacking in ability to move the ball with their arm. There's some value in having an option style QB around, but I would really like to see an actual pro QB as one of our prospects, and IMO Brohm isn't a prospect at this point, he is what he is, a reasonable backup.

It allways surprises me when teams dont gamble more in pre season. Try 2 pointers, an extra point doesnt really give you much in term of evaluation. Go for it on 3rd down some, Let the offence try as high pressure a situation as you can create in pre season, and if it fails see you how your D responds to a field position shift etc. Idk maybe im crazy. Makes sense to me to run special teams basically how you would in a meaningful game in pre-season. It's the hardest to practice at game speed and you want guys to get used to substituting. Also evaluating guys who will be playing special teams.

Anyone worried about Bomber injuries, check out Montreal. Multiple players done for the season already, including a OL who was a potential starter but for sure going to be on the roster with Bomben dealt.

I'm trying the NFL next year too.

That would be a mistake cause Portis stinks. Six of one, half-dozen of the other. Both aren't good at sneaking either, their likely role this season, but lethal on the zone reads and option plays. I really would like to see a guy who looks like he has potential to be a CFL QB in town if we stick with 4 QB's. We don't need two guys like Marve and Portis around. Willy is the starter, Brohm is the backup but is pushing 30, the other two can't pass to save their lives. Some work to be done at QB IMO.

Gordon might be a PR candidate if they think they can develop him, but man he's gotta beat out a bunch of guys who are pro receivers today to get anywhere near the roster (Adams, Tuinei, Willie, Logan).