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What debate? Everyone has equal rights. Anyone can believe what they believe, but they can't use their beliefs to exclude or intimidate people from situations that have nothing to do with those beliefs, like playing professional football. That's pretty fundamental human rights, nothing overly PC about that.

Considering who he's competing against....yes. I think we might have a rotating NI spot on defense between the secondary and DL where Newman, Cauchy, Bucknor, Lucas, Thomas and any DL we might add in the draft would rotate through depending on the defensive package.

That's not too bad. Less than he started asking for.

Cvetkovic ... Labbe ... Long-snapping co-ordinator. He could start a long-snapping camp though for young players. Tough to get a permanent gig, since once the guy knows how to long snap he knows how to long snap. Kind of one of those you get it or you don't type of skills, one repetitive technique and no tactics or reads.

Butler, no doubt. But if we're out on him (as I suspect we are) then I would have to say the guys I'd really like to see us take a shot at would be Ted Laurent (when/if he starts listening to CFL offers), Swayze Waters and Jock Sanders. Would he really be the biggest impact remaining FA for the Bombers if Graig Newman is ready to start, as some are saying? One would think Butler's impact would be lessened by the presence of Newman and Sofa already here and startable (although Sofa might not be the best safety on the Rifles). I heard we're bringing an import safety in too, I think his name is Chester Field or something like that.

You're right. There is no difference between judging people on their character, personality, judgement and poor management/writing and judging people based solely on elements of their humanity that they don't control like gender, race and sexuality.You can have sex changes, change your outward appearance and you can choose your sexual preferences at any time. Your points are invalid.Lots of people took personal shots at Kelly. How many fat jokes were cracked about Lawless. What Roberts and his personal life decisions we mocked in the past. Maybe he couldn't help chasing big girls and smoking all the time. in your world these people didn't choose to be the way they are. I wish that were true...would have led to fewer awkward moments for me on the beach as a 14 year-old whenever hot girls were around.

Butler, no doubt. But if we're out on him (as I suspect we are) then I would have to say the guys I'd really like to see us take a shot at would be Ted Laurent (when/if he starts listening to CFL offers), Swayze Waters and Jock Sanders. Jock Sanders would be a great add. Bellefeuille knows how to use hybrid guys like him too...Thigpen, Corey Holmes.

The annual Hamilton signing of an import LB coming off a season-ending leg injury.

The most overused statement on Bomber fan forums ever. Daved Benefield is still waiting for someone to transition him into a coach.

Looks like we're set at slot with Moore, Denmark, Watson and Kohlert. I think they'll all play a little field WR too. Moore is a good upgrade on Edwards. Need a boundary WR.

Nick Moore isn't an elite #1 receiver unless he takes a quantum leap this off-season. If Denmark is utilized like he was in the 2nd half of the season 2013 he's a 1200 yard receiver. I'd say they are pretty comparable in terms of showing some good ability but being somewhat inconsistent in terms of production. Denmark has better hands, Moore is a bigger target, both really good route runners. I wonder if we are looking at Moore as a boundary WR to replace Matthews. He really didn't do well at that spot in BC 2012 and finally grabbed a spot inside after they dealt Geroy. That boundary WR spot is the one we need to fill. Check out Moore's stats from 2012 - 2013 - he made a quantum leap in terms of production. And that was with the starting QB out for a good portion of the season. No reason he can't be an elite receiver, he's pretty close to it right now..and those 1100 yards put him in the top-10 anyways. I could argue that's elite right now. And as for Denmark, please. Don't act like he wasn't partly responsible for his poor production for most of the season. Not being used properly was only part of the problem. He showed an inability to get open much of the time. If he improves, good for him and good for the Bombers. But I don't want to see the Bombers put all their eggs in the Denmark basket so to speak. I also don't think the Bombers should solely rely on kids fresh out of US college to provide meaningful production. 1000 yard receivers aren't as easy to find as some here seem to think. He also went from being in and out of the lineup, 4th or 5th target when he was in, to taking Geroy Simon's spot. Any receiver good enough to make a CFL team would put up 1000 yards as a primary target. Marquay McDaniel is another example of that...good enough that no one in the league wanted him. Gets a shot to be a #1 receiver with lots of injuries in Calgary, 1000 yards. Is Moore the 3rd best receiver in the league? Not a chance. Same as judging Burris as the #1 QB because he has the most passing yards, yet Lulay, Ray and Calvillo missed big chunks of the season.

I'm a fan of having that 6'4, 6'5 guy who can get the ball in the air yet still be an effective route runner on slants at that boundary spot. I think they might try Moore there, but he sucked at it in BC, he's a way more technical receiver than a just outmuscle a DB for a ball type guy, a good slot. I wonder if Greg Carr is staying in football shape.

I think you do need to if you don't have that #1 guy in house. Willy needs dependable weapons. Moore as many point out does not have that reputation yet... but if you wait for the guy's resume to fill out... you usually miss out on him during his prime. That's why I like the idea of acquiring Moore now. As long as we're not paying him $200,000 on the hope of him growing into that paycheque.

Nick Moore isn't an elite #1 receiver unless he takes a quantum leap this off-season. If Denmark is utilized like he was in the 2nd half of the season 2013 he's a 1200 yard receiver. I'd say they are pretty comparable in terms of showing some good ability but being somewhat inconsistent in terms of production. Denmark has better hands, Moore is a bigger target, both really good route runners. I wonder if we are looking at Moore as a boundary WR to replace Matthews. He really didn't do well at that spot in BC 2012 and finally grabbed a spot inside after they dealt Geroy. That boundary WR spot is the one we need to fill.

That's about the only thing about him I don't like. Moore would be the type of receiver I'd like to have on my team because he has potential to be great, but I'm not getting into a bidding war for him. He's really inconsistent so far.

He'll lose that competition to Cauchy based on passport alone.

Hard to see where Ferri fits on our team, even without knowing what we have in the young imports we've signed. We're covered at WIL, Banks is probably going to play SAM or some hybrid position that takes that spot, Ferri is no better at HB than the DB's we've already got.

You're right. There is no difference between judging people on their character, personality, judgement and poor management/writing and judging people based solely on elements of their humanity that they don't control like gender, race and sexuality.

Nope. You have it backwards. Nothing should be assumed, and there are good and bad people of all kinds. The problem with what Turner said is that he is making the assumption that a gay teammate is going to be hankering for a peek at his junk, and implies that is a good reason to not have a gay teammate at all. It's just following on stereotypes. Imagine if a white player or coach commented that the city will be sold out of fried chicken or something like that when a black player is signed. It's ignorant even if it is said in jest.

Which makes it even worse for Ottawa. They should have got him for basically nothing.

It was hugely ignorant (which is basically a nice way of saying that we hope that Turner doesn't actually believe what he said) and ignorance like that is what creates an environment where certain people are excluded for reasons unrelated to being a good professional football player. It's the exact kind of crap that was said about different races joining the locker room. Another ignorant comment is to equate a homosexual man with a female. Good job! What Bruce said is right out of the bigotry handbook...although he managed to slip ****, ass and coochie in the sentence prior. I'd rather have 10 gay football players on my team who are good players and teammates than 1 Arland Bruce.

Well, if you sign Emry (who btw IMO is one of the most overrated players in the league) you are basically taking yourself out of the running for Henoc Muamba if he gets cut by the Colts during the CFL season. I don't think the Bombers even contacted Emry.

That is a really bad trade for Ottawa. They dealt swapped 3rds this year and handed Calgary a 3rd in 2015 (a good draft) for a guy at the end of his career who has never been more than a rotational DE and struggled to stay healthy for much of his career. They'll get less for Glenn. If this is how Desjardins is valuing picks, Ottawa is screwed.

Perfect situation to create with a well-connected veteran CFL player when you are relying on free agency to stock your roster. I think the other managers around the league are laughing collectively, while Cohon and Hunt are face palming.

I feel like if South Park made an episode about Desjardins as a GM, every mention of him would be followed by "dum dum dum dum dum."