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Would not be surprised if they flip to 2 DI on O. Basically rotate a receiver and Cooley. You have to put some playmakers on the field if you want to score points. Teams are just going to sit on Schoen and Wheatfall. I don't mind Sterns moving up to #3 spot, basically Demski, but if you have 2 of Clercius/Corcoran/Cobb on the field at all times that's a really limited receiving corps. Clercius is a nice #5, not a ton of diversity in his ability to run routes and get open into the field and vertical. Plus he and Cobb are not close to full health themselves.

This could be a very messy ratio game. Offense is very thin. I could see something like Cobb in for Demski and Mitchell in for whoever they deem most expendable American on D...Ayres or Jones/Wilson. I think they keep Vaval and Cooley on.

There were more people at the Valour FC game to watch them get crushed by the Hamilton team than there were at Argo and Stamp home games this week combined.

I tend to agree with this. I wouldn't pressure much and effectively you'd have a spy with guys like Kramdi, Griffin and whoever else is on the field at LB. If Ford has to hit windows he has no chance. Let him run around in circles behind the line all day, just be patient. Jefferson basically always plays that way where he's reading the QB more than firing off to get to a spot in the backfield and hopefully he can be convinced to play with leverage to contain. When his head is in he can do that quite well.

How? Trade for him?

You need adequate time to hit the routes that are called. So if they are trying to take vertical shots and want that to be a large part of the offense, they need to be able to protect so their QB can make the read (some of that pre-snap for sure) and have time/space to make that throw. That was not there on the majority of drops last night. You think the fastest guy in the league running at full sprint is taking 4 and a half seconds to get 40 yards downfield so you need 3+ seconds really if you're taking vertical shots and expecting to hit them. Something probably a lot of people don't consider is the space in the pocket....like it's as impactful to the QB (and to some extent the RB) if one of the OL is getting driven into him as if a defender is loose. Forces QB to bring eyes down and navigate pocket more than read downfield or be able to set feet to throw. Huge effect on ability to go vertical with a pass. Pocket for a straight drop is basically the mouth on a sad face emoji. Any deviation from that can be a problem for the QB's ability to get that ball out on time, accurately. Does Collaros force the vertical stuff? Absofuckinglutely. It's been his style forever. He's your guy, you've gotta be building the offense around that. I'm not a fan of that "switch" (that's what we call it, basically inside slot crosses safety face on vertical through the middle) GO route to Demski. He's gotta be wide open to catch that even if that's a perfect ball. Hate that we're calling plays that rely on a defensive breakdown. I don't know if Schoen is struggling physically, but we sure aren't seeing him go vertical a ton. And other than Wheatfall/Schoen we're not brimming with catch radius guys which is always who Collaros has success with. IMO...OL yesterday was about a 4/10. Not a total disaster like games against Toronto last year, but if that's the level they played 18 games at you'd be a sub-.500 team. D basically score 10 points last night, O had 3 scoring drives. Nowhere near good enough. Way too much pressure, not moving anyone at the line, not creating those creases for the backs in zone to make their cut and hit a seam with speed. Overall if you want to boil it down, they got bodied on more plays than not. BC had almost all their guys and they came out with a bit more fire on the DL, and once they got going things snowballed physically for our OL. Week 1 they were about a 8/10. Amazing opening vertical gaps for the RB's, and basically no pressures allowed at all on dropbacks, physically dominant. Only time you saw anyone on BC's DL was on rollouts. First half some struggles but mostly on QB/receivers getting in rhythm. Run game was dominant from start to finish and that's all physicality from OL because the back is all slash...hit the mark in zone, make the cut, hit the crease. Crease isn't there, Peterson isn't making something from nothing like Oliveira might to grab 5-6 yards.

I think Masoli completed 2 passes over 20 yard throws in the air. He looked ******* brutal. If there was a white jersey in his sight he just tossed the ball up for grabs. Bombers easily could have had 7-8 INTs in that game.

WTF are you talking about? Nichols was knocked out of that season months before they traded for Collaros. Collaros was here for a week before he started the second game he was here for. This whole manufacturing of narratives to be over the top negative has to stop. I know our fanbase can't handle winning.

CFL should really do a "game in 30" kind of deal. Really easy to do with football take out all the breaks and a bit of time between plays.

Their MLB is out for the season with a ruptured bicep.

The end was on a free run through B gap on the side he was reading even with the hold. That's not time to throw.

Someone should ask O'Shea why he took the 10 yards after the BC TD on the kickoff instead of the convert. Make them go for 2 from the 12 or kick 42 yards for PAT. Who gives a **** about 10 yards on an onside kick? Worry about the play that counts for points.

Should have taken the sack instead of forcing a 25 yard pass. Bryant got opened up bad and beat by inside move, held too. Need to be a lot smarter with the ball. And need to block someone. No one should be getting beat inside big on big 1 on 1 in pass protection.

Yeah. What they are doing is basically giving so many different looks for coverages/pressures that the QB can't really trust their pre-snap reads and if they do they will likely be putting the ball in peril. So they are slowing everything down for the QB (in a negative way), giving receivers basically no space to operate, so the QB's are holding onto the ball a lot longer than they want to. Essentially the entire second level of the D and safety could do almost anything on any given play...to put it really simply. From the first two games I think they will need to mix in more pressures. And they did last year. A little heavy on dropping 9 over two weeks and BC was settling in. Could be a little less predictable if they amped up aggression just a notch sometimes before the ball is in FG range.

Bombers +8 on net punting over Lions in the two games. Sheahan's net through 2 games would be 2nd in the league last season. But yeah, Bombers suck right?

Give Collaros the Game 1 OL and let's see. Streveler had near zero pressure on dropbacks, a bit of pressure on some RPO/rollout stuff they did because he's running stiff off the knee injury. He also put the ball up for grabs a bunch in those conditions, especially in the first half of that first game. He has a decent deep ball with no pressure and moves it out quick. Almost no intermediate game which Collaros lives on. The OL is the problem right now and the big difference on O between the two games. There's no consistent 4-5 yards on the run at BC, it's a big run or basically nothing. The Game 1 OL we had that run game with some bursts too, but Peterson was getting 3-4 yards before first contact almost every touch.

And would you rather have Vanterpool at LG (for 70 snaps on O) with Wallace and Eli in reserve or Wallace starting, Eli in reserve and Kyrie Wilson on the field for 30 snaps on D? There's no real logical way to justify dicking around with the OL when it's basically the heart of the team. It stops beating, you're dead. You can figure out how to deal with a deficit at WIL or field corner or WR...not at LG or any OL spot.

Yeah most of Toronto's line that we couldn't handle last year.

7 yards a carry to 4.7 yards a carry by our running backs. Pass protection went from perfect to near zero clean pockets tonight. Not blaming Wallace, but there was really no reason to mess with success.

It's a matter of protection. Yeah he's not what he was in 2021. But the protection is not good enough and far worse than it was in 2021 too. It's been getting progressively worse. He needs a clean pocket. You build the team to do that. It's the only way we win. You figure out kick coverage, catching punts, whatever spots you need to, but you get a OL out there that can pass protect with whoever you need any roster designation.

Our offense is so thin in terms of Canadian depth. You'd have insert someone taking BO off. And we basically only have Americans who are at game health. Otherwise you're running a O with 6 OL, 6 receivers and 2 running backs. I don't know who they have to be prepped to play both ways, but would be kind of nuts to get stuck playing either Chris-Ike or a 6th OL every play with a couple injuries. Demski's ankle is on borrowed time, Clercius is already dinged, Schoen is fresh off ACL. Really need to think on Ayres IMO. I also don't know what Kyrie Wilson brings at this point. Don't think we need both those guys especially as we get a couple Canadians back in upcoming weeks who are strong special teams players.

I think you should look around at the QB's in this league today. Collaros is very clearly in the top third even when he has a below average game. Montreal arguably has 2 of the top 5 QB's in the league on their roster. I'd argue that. Their current QB is leading the best offense and their backup led the best offense in the league in the 2nd half of last season.

Chris-Ike has 0 carries in his career. Cooley had 7 tonight. Not really sure what the gripe is. What doesn't make sense is Wilson/Ayres instead of the starting LG. We have 3 Canadian LB's who can play and tons of ST depth. Throw the OC a bone and make Mike Miller take a minor hit to his crew.

How did you expect them to use Cooley? He's got 7 touches and has been out there more than 20 snaps. I question why you need Wilson and Ayres rather than a OL that steamrolled BC last week. I'm a lot more comfortable with Shay/Gauthier/Smith etc potentially needing to take D snaps than I am playing around with OL quality and depth.

I question the protection. Because it hasn't been consistent since 2022. Hard to judge a QB in the conditions tonight. He can't get set for many throws, he's gotta navigate pressure constantly, more often than not. Very different look than when we had the unstoppable O with consistently clean pockets. And there's no excuse to have American OL who aren't playing well. Even if they are HOFers. I didn't like disrupting the group that had a good game last week. Hopefully they can find consistency, because this is a OL that isn't going to win us many games tonight.