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You're missing the point that every time the NFL and NHL have increased their cap number the teams have just left that amount as open space. NFL players still make $70,000 like it's 1992. But they have so much cap space. I can tell you are not an accountant LOL. The same issues remain for teams trying to retain or attract top level players. Those players set their price. Sure a few of them might end up without dance partners in the end. The agents know how much money teams have to spend. When it comes down to it and a team is trying to pry a guy off his current team, what is the attraction? Money. Current team steps up to keep the guy or lets him walk. Repeat this with 5-10 free agents per team per year. And your "extra" cap space is kaput. It's just normal now. But the QB doesn't count so you've created a market there where they highest willing bidder will get the guy. So maybe a guy like Brown gets $600,000 on this deal so someone blows up the market to make sure they get him. This is what the 90s and 2000s were like. We've lived it. The revenue can't sustain it. Every single time the cap goes up in either hard capped (NFL, MLB with CBT luxury tax) or soft cap leagues (like CFL, NFL,NBA) the average salaries go up to meet that number. Every single time. That's why some guys are called value if they signed long-term 3 cap increment raises ago. Like how Schiefele was on his current deal.
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
JuranBoldenRules replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Behar would basically be BOLO replacement. If you're signing guys like Schoen and Oliviera that's a rookies job. -
The more money they have to offer the more money players expect to get paid. I gave you an example of how that money goes away. You have 20 other guys who expect 20-25,000 more on every team as it opens up. That's exactly what happened when the CFL had the QB exemption in the 90s and early 2000s and why the BOG went to this salary system that counts the QB. They had this in the 90s and early 2000s. The league almost went under.
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
JuranBoldenRules replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
They should just let it fall into ruins. Could build a great stadium for part of that cost just to make sure this one doesn't collapse on itself. -
I tend to agree with this. It will just shift the market IE you'll have more $200,000 receivers and a few more elite defenders making in that range. Sort of like the reality that adding more lanes to a road doesn't alleviate congestion. The CFL did have this rule with the enforced cap in the 90s and into 2000s. The BOG moved away from it in 2006. It is a soft cap. A team like the Bombers can probably budget an extra 10% for 6 game time. The whole market shifts though. Agents aren't ignorant. Say someone like Jefferson. Instead of $165,000 he's setting his market at $190,000. Times that 15-20% by every spot but rookies on the roster and there goes the extra cap space from your exempt player.
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Think about it this way. We won Grey Cups with Lawler as our #1, Demski, Adams, Wolitarsky, Bailey. We haven't won anything without Harris. Since Oliviera and Schoen came in, we've faltered both times in November. They can get it done without either. I'd say looking at the landscape, it will be a lot harder to replace the overall game of Oliviera, especially what he brings to the pass game. Think about 2022, brought in a guy like Ellingson who was always dinged but produced at like a 1400 yard pace when he did play. There's more guys like that around than complete every down backs. You get into a bit of a ratio mess if you need to start dressing 2-3 backs to cover off what you need. Augustine could maybe be one of those guys.
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
JuranBoldenRules replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Problem is that goes both ways with Bede, especially if he's punting. He's very slow as a punter. -
Really like this one^. Hard to imagine anyone being as explosive as Grant, but this guy is a legit offensive player and has some chops on returns. Could be the overall player they wanted Grant to be. Wisconsin used him lots as a gadget guy, wildcat QB and Rutgers used him as a legit receiver with some of the Jet stuff too.
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But then on O or D he only played in one spot...that he was converted to and had never played before he got here....didn't even play there in training camp or pre-season. They liked him on special teams but his athletic limitations meant he only had utility in pretty limited spots on cover team and all return teams. Where do you put a 6'2 295 guy on special teams? Basically the only spot Thomas might get in is on FG team and even then that's risky. I think they'll bring back at least one of Briggs or Gauthier. Those guys are trying the market to see if they might slot more into someone's D than they would here.
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Carey's never really been a full time player either nor a threat in the pass game at all for anyone but his QB. And he's 32. So in avoiding paying the guy that is we might end up paying the same amount to use an extra roster spot for a couple guys, probably 1 vet and 1 rookie deal guy, to do the job plus Augustine. I think it circles back to Oliviera.
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Ouellette is a black hole in the passing game though. He was subbed out a ton. He's not a guy that can be the every down only back on a team. I have no interest in him much past average salary range plus some incentives for production and awards etc. We're a markedly worse team with Ouellette. I'd rather spend that money on receivers and try out some other options at running back. I think Ouellette is actually going to take a harder fall on his contract expectations than Oliviera. Oliviera could get 200 including some incentives.
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It would be cool to line up the depth chart for a week in May, set up a ring at midfield and everyone fight to see who survives in helmets and shorts. But everyone knows that isn't how it works. There's a handful of rookies/discards fighting for how ever many spots are left, coaches monitoring their habits, fit into team and pretty much everything else is locked in. This isn't only in this sport or this level. Everyone is preparing to play games. Not replacing half their roster the week before the season. Opportunity knocks when it does. Guys get chances to play due to injury or poor performance, work onto roster, work into roles. The major roster movement happens this time of year. If it's happening in May to November the team is probably ****** from the jump.
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
JuranBoldenRules replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Ottawa likes to take risks on guys who can't stay healthy. -
Yeah just the year he got voted for the award finally since Bryant wasn't great either. So many plays Hardrick stands up/gets stood straight up and doesn't move his feet. You'd get some sexy looks where he wraps around someone on a run play. Kind of surprised we didn't hear about him getting any surgeries. Wouldn't bet on his knees and hips right now going into mid 30s. If Ottawa wants to pay him 200,000, good for him.
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I clearly don't. Sarcasm toward the people who do. Kolankowski isn't signing here for that number (keeping in mind some of the numbers we have/will have at playmaker spots) to be the 6th guy. The centre job isn't up for grabs right now IMO. There's not going to be a competition in a camp where there's low compete anyway these days among vets. The spots that might be up for grabs are LG and RT. Probably one of Eli/Dobson get into start in one of those spots, Dobson's shot might be LG if Gray isn't back, Eli's shot is both. Other guy is 6th OL. I'm guessing there will be Americans in the mix for at least RT, maybe both depending on the backfield situation.
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In this situation Eli was here first. So I'm not sure the "vet" got the favoritism. Eli has never beat out anyone for a job here. Not Couture, not Speller, not Desjarlais, not Gray, not Neufeld, not Kolankowski. Could be a mass conspiracy against him I guess. He'll probably get another chance both interior and RT this year.
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Bombers can easily pay Oliviera and Schoen. Means Hardrick is gone. Which kind of a meh for me. Looked to me all last season like he was breaking down and had some downright awful games. Makes our club stronger if someone else is paying him close to 200k. Means they are moving from both corners. I could see Bailey and Gray back. Will depend on their market and Bomber willingness to keep them on roster…that part more for Bailey than Gray. They could try to go Canadian at RT between Gray and Eli.