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Hubert started really strong and probably hit a wall. Yeah he got more chances because of injury but he was noticeable in a good way when he did get that chance.

That is the only issue with lapo. He lacked an ability to sense those few moments in a game where taking a chance was worth it. Down 2 scores with little time left the guy was the best play caller going. Up 2 scores with half a game left the worst.

Which of those 3 will be the biggest drain on the team compared to the amount of cap they eat up... TBD. Be between Rourke and collaros IMO.

He left the team worse off at the qb position. I mean yes Glenn maybe wouldn't take the team to the promised land... but he was better than the **** jelly threw out there. Toss Glenn when you have a replacement, not before.

Guy was the start or the spiral towards the darkest times... decided Kevin Glenn wasn't good enough and opting to hitch his wagon to a guy who had proven nothing... you don't replace Glenn until someone in house is pushing him out or you sign a proven starter in FA. Just then first in a series of "smarter than everyone else" moves Kelly made to damage the team. He put his ego aside yeah maybe he could have been an OK coach, but having to be gm, he, oc, everything just sewered the team.

Zach isn't blm or Nichols... blm is a pure pocket passer so age is less of an issue compared to collaros who when you think of his career highlights includes the houdini act escaping pressure with his legs and finding the play downfield... he's lost a step and can't perform that magic. He's also not Nichols... he has always sucked at the short quick game. Again, he's a buy time find a play type qb.

**** all y'all now I want a cinnamon bun that I desperately don't need...

I personally expect him to be up and down all season. We shall see which one of us is disappointed at year end.

Collaros needs too much help at this point. The issue though he's paid like a guy who can carry the team which means he gets less help.

Jake Thomas!

Walters ever not prioritize the OL/DL with one of his first couple picks? Legitimately curious because I can't remember. Seems like there's always a lineman of some type taken early by walters.

yeah I came here to say, dude didn't get all those NFL chances just because he could run from the qb spot and be a gimmick. He accomplished far more in the NFL than Rourke did as an example. Free Streveler and don't run him into a brick ******* wall head first every down and see what happens.

Gross. No. Streveler way before that cancer.

They were always in multiple 4L plastic ice cream pails when I was a lad.

Didn't Ottawa play a bunch of games with no running back? Doesn't sound like a stacked team

To be fair don't think he spends much on the flames either. Guy is just a cheap prick

buck got stupid vs. collaros got old.... this season will tell the tale.

No OL in the cfl is good enough to protect a qb who holds onto the ball for a long time but can't escape anymore. Collaros used to be able to dodge pressure and make things happen, now he gets buried by pressure. It's sad, but the dude is not the same guy he was when he first got here. Age is a mother f'er

The sun shines on every dogs ass now and then. Games like that are the exception with collaros these days.

And I think what's happened is collaros has gotten dinged enough he's past his best before date. He was running away with the MOP award 2 years ago and then was awful and was out performed in the same scheme as Brown, last year collaros struggled hard most of the time too. Now whether it was collaros or buck I can't say for sure, but I really do believe that the problems are that collaros can't adapt anymore and he's making everything else look.worse as a result.

If it was a one off you got some traction there.... but we're on 3 straight years of making excuses for the top paid qb in the league...

Everyone everywhere has personal bias.

That says more about how poor collaros has been than anything else.

I'd bet folding money that's the plan.

You see where the confusion lies...