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But 2 seasons down to injury... guy has to show it is a fluke thing. I mean we all remember the lumsdens getting bent out of shape about how it was all just bad luck.

If there are ya buts available then it's not that valid a point. Mike has his opinions which are not out and out wrong, but they're biased.

Oh I'm not suggesting that they were sissy injuries or anything, but some guys just get hurt. I hope he isn't one but given his history it needs to be proven.

But can he stay healthy?

Ehhh last season to me felt like walters was bringing it back on a budget. I think he honestly saved some cash for guys coming back from the NFL who never came back. I wouldn't be surprised to see some better depth this year.

It's easy to look a step slow when you have to cover for everyone. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt at this point simply because he did improve later in the year when some other areas started to get solidified. I don't know he has a long time left, but for now I give him the benefit of the doubt.

You are too critical of him. Yeah he ain't what he once was, but he is still pretty good. We had a shitn load of problems on D last year.

I also think last season the defense was not what it could have been because of the sheer amount of injuries... secondary was beat the **** up, we lost maston before the season started, we lost Wilson and then his backup... Jeffcoat barely played... that's a lot and this team was still able to overcome it and win 15 games. Not worried about them at all. Scouts do their jobs and someone will show up on the DL to help (not to mention Hansen as well right?)

Well I for one am still mad at Ellingson for gassing that easy first down pass early in the game. Set the tone for the entire thing.

Having Wilson and Darby for a full season is a pretty huge ******* upgrade at linebacker too IMO compared to last year anyway. And the experience some guys got in the secondary last season will help solidify that as we start the season too. I just don't see the weaknesses others do.

I don't see how though.... I mean OK let's say you like the Argos front 7 more (highly debatable since I think you are reading too much into age of these guys and some unfortunate injuries last season)... the Bombers offense is very clearly head and shoulders above the argos on paper and special teams who can really say but the argos biggest issue on teams is a kicker who sometimes goes on a mental walk about same as here. Overall the argos are not at winnipegs level.

It was a fluke because seeing all 3 phases by the Bombers make that many brain farts never happens.

Sheed is a guy that is very easy to cheer for.

Is it coaching when people aren't executing?

Yeah but losing Bolden after 01 was a pretty significant loss. This team is much deeper than 01. Don't forget 02 they went into the west final without stegall and lost Robert's on the first play. That was like 75% of the offense.

Last year's team set a franchise record for wins and for as absolutely terribly they played in the Grey Cup still lined up at the end for a field goal that would have won except again for a poor play. Not like it was a ho-hum team they're running back. This was an all time type team that is coming back. And adding Lawler isn't nothing. I think you are a bit too hard on things.

Oh no I want a rematch. Spank that flukes team back to Toronto.

Those two things aren't remotely similar

Fell out a window onto some bullets?

Except that even with mcleod bethel Thompson Smith Jones back the argos still have the 2nd best qb in Southern Ontario. Honestly Hamilton is probably the best team in the east IMO.

Riders appear to be all in this year. Watch the idiot masses lap it up though.

God I would love to see him have just the shits of a season now. It would amuse me.

On the other hand he signed a contract he felt was fair. Beat thing to do would be to play at a top level again and then go out on the next contract and get your payday.

What ever they wanted. Let's not forget Kushner was denied security clearance more than once before Donnie dipshit gave it to him anyway.