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Bighill was useless in pass coverage too. Bighill got injured and it improved the D so how can you sit there and sat it was the best use of roster? It's a bright flashing sign showing how O'Shea's loyalty to certain veterans blinds him from making the best roster moves... so if we know it happens based on this one example we can ******* easily extrapolate that it happens to varying degrees at other positions. It's pretty ******* telling when we can sit here on this message board in the offseason and basically nail the depth chart before camp even opens.

This is less about how good Eli is and more about Kolankowski sucks, try someone else and if it's not Eli find someone else.

And it took an injury for him to get the more substantial playing time which led to improved team performance.... and opportunity that wouldn't have been given without injury... and that's not the only position this sort of thing happens with. We're just not always lucky enough to have injuries at positions where they need to happen.

This is a terrible argument... teams in the cfl barely scout practise rosters of each other any more. Fact is their own American scouting is just as efficient. Hamilton is a great example. They hired a gm from the Bombers and he found a use.for tons of guys who didn't get as many opportunities here. Mostly with Americans you're looking at potential and it's the combination of opportunity and development that turn them into impactful starters. The crux of the issue here is that we never give guys those opportunities when there's an established vet in their way on the depth chart. It leads to stagnation.

Tony Jones? Cause you and I know damned well that without injury bighill would still be starting for us despite a scrap heap pick up like Jones instantly improved play at the position.

Neufeld was ass to start last season because he was hurt all camp. And how can Eli earn a spot when he never gets a chance there? See you're still clinging to this false idea that you have that guys are starting because they are the best option and no one has pushed past them. That's demonstatively flase with this team...

When has Eli ever been put in at centre? And if he's awful why is he here? Kolankowski is a bottom teir starter on this team, should be a priority to replace rather than untouchable. As for neufeld, why threatened? Old, often injured or playing injured....

I liked buck for the most part, just last year he seemed to get stupid, but that might also have been collaros problems.

Guy had 1/3 of a season to prove what everyone else already knew, that he wasn't good enough, before he was demoted and released... let's not pretend it reflects on the coaches in some positive light here.

Mostly through injury or departure though... kolankowski was purely an injury fill in and he had never once been in danger of being pulled out. Neufeld can be injured all training camp and never feel pressure to lose his spot...

It makes too much sense!

Osh ain't taking Thomas off the roster unless he was dead and even then it's 50/50

I much prefer schoen to Lawler but that's me. Lawler can be amazing, but some games he wasn't amazing. We can debate schoen coming off the injury and whether he was ready or not but I'd have picked schoen over Lawler too.

I'd go 3 American ol if the interior American was at C...

Well the GM obviously envisioned a group of schoen, Mitchell, demski, clercius a d wheatfall/sterns... which is better.

With schoen on the IR who is that receiver you turn to when you absolutely must have a play? Demski... but history has shown he is at his best when he's the #3 type guy. Wheatfall is too inconsistent, sterns is limited by his size. Clercius is still young and not the real dynamic make plays all over the field type anyway. So yeah, receivers are a big problem

Yeah you see me defending collaros much?

Outplaying Zach in a Grey cup sadly isn't all that high of a bar.

Put him in bubble wrap cause trusting a guy that old to last a long season is a choice when his history isn’t one of the picture of durability

It's more of a back handed compliment. He doesn't quit when he's in trouble, he keeps trying to make a play. Sometimes it blows up sometimes it works.

Zach has played more bad Grey cup games than good ones. Guy was a decent qb in his prime, but that time is long gone.

Too stupid to know when he's beaten.

Yeah and I've said both qbs have to deal with a pile of **** around them... all I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of some people who simply write off streveler as sucking meanwhile do all sorts of excuse making for collaros when he is throwing too many picks (2 more last night let's not forget), getting sacked when he holds the ball too long, having long periods of offensive ineptitude etc etc etc.

Absolutely they were. Which is why I always push back on the idea that collaros did anything special in that run.