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I don't think oshea counts as many... Here's the thing with those two... they're OK and you can use guys like that... but they shouldn't be the untouchable mainstays like they seem to be. We got far far too many of those guys on the team now.

Yeah those quotes there are damning... tsn showed multiple times how vaj was just rolling away from wherever the pressure was going to come from and not having to worry about getting hit. There were a few plays they did get some pressure... but not enough to make life uncomfortable for vaj.

Yeah Willie is just completely done at this point.

May not be his MO but doing the same thing over and over again isn't going to help.

Will bang this drum as often as it needs... team is complacent right now. Need a shake up to wake everyone up. Sit a Willie or Thomas.

Well this will go round and round... some of the big free agents acquisitions are not getting on the roster... so is it a gm problem or a who the coach.plays problem?

Yup that about sums up everything...

Jake is bad and totally cooked, Willie is totally cooked and bad... These guys need sat down ASAP because they're doing nothing to help at the moment. Bridges you're cut, what a pathetic display and it's not the first time. Kramdi... yeah that was something alright Bonds.. you're better than that, act like it. T.Jones... wrong Jones got cut. Oh look a tackle 9 yards down field. Wow, such impact. Time for a big shake up with the defensive roster cause what they're trotting out ain't working. Kolankowski... what would you say you DO here? Vanterpool I dunno but saw a few "OLE!" moments. Case.... stay on your feet you might be serviceable despite people wanting to hate. playcalling oh boy was that just bad... Too much complacency on this team and it shows. This has been 2 years in the making now. Cracks started to show badly summer 2023, continued last year and now it's to the point where it's a full on dam bursting situation. They'd best remove heads from asses and make some hard decisions before it gets beyond saving. No reason Mitchell, a guy you identified as a priority in the offseason doesn't get on the roster for one thing.

but he had a bunch of tackles!

STOP GOING TO THE ******* GAMES THEN! Why you put the curse on them?

See, you did make it a 90s night.

Then what is the point?

Best i can do is lots of Kornelson Thomas and schmekel

Their record after a bye is damned good and a break won't make the old farts worse. I'm expecting a much different game than last time.

I actually think the depth is OK, it's just how the roster is built that makes is seem bad. OL I think is OK and DL again is more how the roster is put together more than anything else.

Well he's probably pretty much there anyway... which based on game 1 ain't so bad....

I also maintain that with better quarterbacking we might see more from receivers. I dunno but we really didn't see many people really bitching about the receivers after game 1. Just seems there's a real disconnect between what the team is bringing in vs. what works with collaros, yet they are so committed to collaros. I dunno feels like there's a turning point coming soon in terms of how things are being done.

So the mistake isn't so much letting Lawler go, it's not bringing in someone to replace him. I guess they thought Mitchell could do some of that, and we'll that hasn't happened.

So how hum overall numbers and inability to be consistent... and everyone is acting like we're fools for not giving the guy a HUGE payday. I like Lawler and agree that he can have a monster game but at that kinda price tag I expect more than what he gave us. Offense still was a hot mess last year. I'm telling you, you want a good offense in the cfl get a good qb and our qb is problem #1 right now.

Did Lawler make much of an impact here after his edmonton misadventures?

That's my recollection. Simon spent the 01 season in the NFL and Bruce had emerged that year.

I have always hated this description of it... it was JUST Robert Gordon, it was also Arland Bruce as a young guy and he turned out pretty good too.

Well it's also a case of a hold over from the year before, so not really new new....

So you said acceptable offer... that to me doesn't necessarily mean asking price, it means a starting point in his opinion. Cause I remember listening to Walters year end presser last year and he basically went through a bunch of guys (including Ford) that he said we're going to be getting paid and he was doubtful they'd be able to bring them back. What we have going on here now is a disconnect between coach and GM. We got a gm willing to move on from players and a coach resistant to playing new guys. Something will give eventually