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In: McGhee, Bridges, Charbonneau Out: Wilson, Feltmate, Cole You saying that those moves make sense? 2 linebackers out, 2 DBs on the roster... Teamer for Teamer sure fine, but our front 7 already sucks and they did nothing to address losing 2 of those guys.

Well which Wilson are we getting? The one who played against Calgary or the one who played every other game?

Though I do think his placement when kicking from closer to midfield is very good, a real strength. But yeah, flipping the field by unleashing a massive punt from deep? Never gonna happen. We punt from deep the other team is getting a field goal minimum

Problem is they're fixated on most of the losses being close, so just clean up a few things... well most of their wins the last 5 years were close too... used to be we had the talent and depth to make the plays needed to win the tight ones, now they don't have either. They need to realize that before they can fix it.

100% this. Would have been the easiest thing in the world to avoid this fall... instead they doubled down on not avoiding it.

Awww christ now Noeller is gonna tell a Grey cup2019 story about that

Injuries usually happen when you're involved in the play

Poop...

Grymes eh...

What about edmonton? I think your criteria is flawed

Again, most games in the cfl are close, and every team that loses leaves plays on the field.... still not sure what your point is other than kissing the lions ass like you always do. It's just funny how the lions are the team that always gets excuses from you.

Because quarterbacking in the cfl us **** since Reilly retired and blm messed up his shoulder. Said it a million times the last few years, collaros being the best qb in the cfl is an indictment of the quality of quarterbacks. How did collaros wind up with the best stats? Well he had a hot summer. Seriously he went from the run away slam dunk MOP candidate to not even being his teams nominee as the season wore on. It's the cfl, does anyone believe that if collaros really was playing well that Oliveira would have had the opportunity to be the teams MOP candidate? No-one saying it was an instant drop off, but this version of collaros started showing up last season for sure. Age is a mother ******.

What difference does it make? And I'm not even talking specifically about the Bombers anyway. You just came in spewing this nonsense saying that the game would have been different for the lions if vaj completed more passes... to which I said any losing team is gonna wish their qb completed more passes... You just make every excuse imaginable for the lions, it's comical at this point.

Physician heal thyself.... Long passes are lower % passes... how on earth does it make sense in you mind to say what you said without it being a joke? If the qb completed better throws the game is different. Well no **** Sherlock.

Then why were so many of us pointing it out last season already? If you really get belligerent about this I will go dig up old threads to prove it...

If the qb didn't miss his passes the game would have been totally different! I'll tell collaros there's still hope.

Case didn't look bad on returns, not a lot of difference between the two to my untrained eye.

People think streveler can't play qb and yet want tre Ford... it's wild...

Much respect for collaros being a huge part of the dominant stretch this team had and he's going down in the teams history books.... but he has been complete ass in back to back grey cups and has been on a steady downward trend 2 seasons now. Guy is finished, and at his age with as many city miles as there are on that body I don't expect him to get back to his former glory now matter what situation he's in. He has become too predictable. Too easy for defenses to play against.

Honestly the changes I want to see on D are ones that can likely take the D to pretty dominant heights. Points against are already quite good, fix the front 7 usage and you likely see them add in more big game breaking plays.

First of all I am not sure he showed he could win last year consistently... if Brady wasn't rolling the offense wasn't doing ****... second of all the defense this year is bot mediocre. They're playing well despite their faults. I also think collaros, especially the first 4 games made the ol look worse than they are in pass blocking. Guy holds onto the ball way too long. No one ever said there's just one thing to fix... but don't kid yourself, collaros is a huge problem for this team. Streveler has thrown touchdowns in both games he's got a reasonable amount of playing time, collaros has had one decent game all year (and still needed points from the D to secure that win)

You really do struggle with nuance and are entirely literal aren't you? No one ever said collaros was blaming anyone else... but certain fans are making all kinds of excuses for him. Well they doesn't work when you're getting paid like the best player in the league. And how the **** do you not judge a player without considering their salary? Collaros is playing like garbage and if he can't play without 2 of the 3 best receivers in the league and without the very best OL then he has no business getting paid what he does. To be honest I've seen enough from collaros last season and this season to say it's past time to move on. At his age he isn't going to get better and he is the biggest problem on the O right now.

Never underestimate how desperate this league is for qbs.

can be said of any losing team....