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I mean does he need to progress and grow? Sure, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of it. People are massively selling his ability as a passer short. He can make all the throws.

You're not providing reasons here...

Why isn't he?

He has been **** at short passing forever. Even when he does throw them they're not effective. It's just that when he first got here it was a breath of fresh air after the lapo special where it's all check downs or deep shots. Collaros worked the intermediate game effectively. Now teams know what he is all about and are taking it away and collaros can't adapt because his other big weapon was his escapability (think that td to adams against calgary in 2019) and right now he just doesn't have that ability to get away anymorem

Sweeten the pot by adding Thomas.

And that = never develop? You realize how stupid that statement is right? It's not like streveler has shown to be poor at passing this season... considering the OL problems a d receiver problems he has done about as well as you can expect passing the ball... and yes I would say better than collaros.

I don't care if you're right, thou shalt not besmirch Khari Jones.

People have been telling me that Cody Fajardo is playing like one of the best qbs in the league.... well Chris Streveler had many times the passing pedigree and talent that fajardo does and you're saying he can't develop into one of the better qbs? **** off with that noise. Sure he's not going to be a calvillo or Ray who controls the game from the pocket but that doesn't mean he's some shitty qb.

Yeah collaros doesn't have the escapability to deal with the crappy OL play. With Streveler being a threat to take off and run and actually get away it makes life easy on the rest of the offense.

Are we really sure about that?

I remember Hubert in one of the preseason games standing out for making some good plays and then he seems to make some good plays in regular season... so my question is, how did he wind up being a late round pick? Cause there's gonna be a list as long as my arm of guys drafted before him who don't accomplish nearly as much as he has already shown...

Same as it was before.

Yeah Miller is good, only problem he has is he is too chatty as the pbp guy but he can call a good game.

We have running backs who can play that position better than a quarterback and we have receivers who can play that better than quarterbacks can. 2 qbs on the field is a gimmick play you run once or twice to try and catch a team napping. It's not a regular thing.

Id like to see a scheme also when we have Zach back where essentially there's a 3 back set. Streveler, BO, and Zach. Right there...

First I've heard of this

Suitor needs to be forcibly retired. He's the broadcasting equivalent of Jake Thomas. Well past a best before date that was never that good to start with.

Sounds like a typical Jason Maas offense. It's always those hitches with blocking happen from the snap of the ball. God forbid the CFL enforces their rules consistently

All I'm saying is, as we have seen plenty in thr past, poor OL play is Hazardous to a qbs health.

Meanwhile Collaros survived 3.5 games of what we were doing before.

Paying more attention lately it does seem like he hasn't got a clue what he should be doing half the time.

He definitely seems like a guy who enjoys the smell of his own farts

Yeah Kramdi tackles pretty well. It's the coverage thing where he gets into trouble.

Welcome to the conversation that's been happening for over a year now about how the poor roster management makes things harder than they need to be. That was a total bullshit call. Only reason the flag was thrown was because Mike Miller put a shoulder into crum and took him down. Otherwise there's no flag because the push was nothing and way worse is always let go if the qb stays on his feet.