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These days.

It is insanity how anyone, even a troll, can argue against this bottles the mind. The amount they have to move the goal posts is surely exhausting. Who has that kind of time or energy?

So let the courts decide that and dismiss the case because of it. You did say you wanted everyone given due process no?

Even reading the document it's even stupider than that. He wants to withdraw his guilty plea, ok let him have his day in court and let justice prevail... except here comes the DOJ which says "nah we don't think they can prove it so we are going to just drop it" In what world is that justice? Barr is the judge of everything now?

The man plead guilty... twice.... isn't this about justice? He is guilty, he said it himself. Basically your argument boils down to "they dug too far, should have stopped sooner before they found his crimes"

I agree, so why is the DOJ going against fair practices? Doj is not supposed to be about politics. Justice is blind right? Can you honestly claim they are being impartial?

yet you support the filthiest muckiest swamp creatures and instead complain about the flies buzzing around the top. Makes sense. Yes clean up all the corruption, but start with the most corrupt.

It sure is clear, rules for thee, but not for me. The DOJ under Barr has done nothing but shield Trump and his cronies. If there is any justice in the world they will all be thrown in prison for their actions.

Because it totally pwns you libs! Take THAT! TEACH YOU TO CARE ABOUT ANYONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF!

Sadly they have no shame in being hypocrites.

It's stupidity through arrogance. The entirety of the Trump mafia have never once had to face consequences so they don't believe in them. Corrupt actions like this only reinforce their notions that they are above the law. I do not care which side of the political spectrum you sit on, this blatant and obvious corruption and abuse of power is appalling. This is how dictatorships start. Except it's usually someone smart and capable pulling it off, not a gaggle of idiots falling ass backwards into it because it helps the selfish rich people steal more public money.

Yep, the people who scream the loudest about needing guns to protect from a tyrannical government are quite happy with the Republicans acting all authoritarian. No what this comes down to is small weak individuals who need to feel powerful by having a gun.

I always chuckle at the projection these people engage in.

The confederates haven't changed. Perhaps they were playing the long game. They are effectively in control of the whole USA now.

It's pretty galling. But republican voters are complete sheep. They rage against the coastal elites all the time so naturally their lord and savior is a billionaire from new York who lives in a tower and sits on a gold toilet... I just don't understand the mental gymnastics people go through to justify their racism and bigotry.

Yeah what is that in reference to anyway? Is he talking about the lunatics who think immunity passports should be a thing? Cause that won't happen.

Funny how that works when there is widespread obstruction of justice huh?

Given that everything Trump says is projection he is just admitting that he is a treasonous bastard.

God do all you right wing nutters have meetings to get your talking points straight? Cause I swear it's always the exact same arguments from every one of you. Sweden is in no way shape or form an example that the USA could ever follow. Sweden is a small socialist country. They have a robust social safety net and well funded health care system... and they are still have issues no matter how much anyone wants to pretend they aren't. The USA meanwhile has pay to play Healthcare and sweet **** all for a social safety net. If they just let er buck with this virus it would be devastating to them because such a large portion of their population lacks access to Healthcare to start with. In the States someone could go bankrupt having to go to the hospital as easily as they could "suffering" through a lockdown. It is high time people stop looking at things like this in terms of it just being about covid-19. All cover has done is peel back the layers and expose which countries have shitty governments and systems in place. It's why I don't like the "but unemployment will kill more people!!1!" Nonsense that gets tossed around. It's up to governments to support their people through this making the conclusions null and void unless the government does nothing. In which case it isn't the virus that is the problem, it's uncaring government content to get rich off the plebs and if they die so be it, it was so a bunch of already rich people could get just a tiny bit richer. That is the real issue being exposed here. As a nation we can afford to take measures to slow the spread of this virus AND support people financially through it. It's not an either or choice. As I have said for ever, we aren't trying to stop this thing, only slow it down enough so that people don't have to die unnecessarily because too many people got sick at once. Herd immunity isn't something that only happens if everyone gets infected at once, it will happen as more people are exposed, which will naturally happen with a slow, phased re-opening of things. We take our time getting back to normal, we can care for the ones who get sick and still get that herd immunity (if it's something that lasts. These things mutate fast enough a new strain could show up in a few years that we don't have the resistance to.

Facts!

Not who, how. The language used is always a dead give away. And both sides do that garbage so this isn't some anti right wing tirade here. I just can't stand the weaponization of news that has taken place.

The piece I took was from the current review. Here is what you are missing, facts can be presented in misleading ways. Facts should be neutral. There is a quote I love about statistics but it applies here too I feel: Statistics are only as useful as the person interpreting them. Like I said, it's another form of dishonesty. Leading people down a path by telling them how to interpret things.

OK but is the analysis I posted wrong? Because I drew that conclusion just reading the initial article. They take real things and present it in a biased way. It's just another form of dishonesty that as your link here shows, they can hide behind and say "see!! Totally legit" I have said too many times in this thread that people need to cultivate the ability to discern whether information is factual on their own rather than being led around by others pushing their own agenda.

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Last night I turned on the TV and watched bit of sports net replaying the 89 and 93 Stanley cup finals. It was kind of reassuring to even hear the crowd noises again. Really missing the sports.