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I mean christ, even some one as tone deaf and ignorant as Donald Trump has given up the flu is more deadly garbage argument. ******* selfish people can't make any sacrifices for the good of society.

we have to start calling these misguided ideas out or people will just keep spouting this harmful bullshit.

Seriously, get your bogus "other side" crap outta here. Downplaying this is how it will spread further. This thing is crazy infectious, and yes the vast majority of people will not have serious issues with it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take it seriously. It's not bad now, but that's 2 reasons. #1 is the stats are unreliable because a country like China is very much a closed country that won't ever be truthful in order to save face and #2 because in the western world we're still in the early stages of this thing. There has been limited testing and even still you are seeing exponential spread of the thing when it gets here. You want to dismiss it and buy into the anti-intellectualism that's not OK because this affects everyone. Yeah the measures to try and limit the spread so that our health care system doesn't get overwhelmed suck for everyone, but as a society we must work together for the common good. By your attitude I'm gonna guess you're an OK Boomer.

Shhh he's a good digger

I am not hating, I am trying to enlighten you and help you see why this is a big deal. But apparently you've made up your mind. You're wrong, but you ain't changing your mind because feels apparently.

Yes Mr. Trump. You know that the american stats are unreliable because of their lack of testing right? In fact any percentage of the population you try and use right now is going to be a highly incomplete number simply because of the testing limitations. Lot of people will get this virus and have no idea that that's what it is because for most people it's going to be just another illness they get in the flu and cold season. It is also highly dubious to compare it to the flu. For one, we have a vaccine for the flu which can prevent further spread and many people have some built up immunity to it. This is a brand spanking new virus, no one has immunity and everyone is susceptible to it. Stop the misinformation in the name of arguing seblantics.

My big hope for all of this is a societal shift in priorities. Let's end the "**** you I got mine" era and go back to actually working towards the common good.

he is the guy who said that when he looks at himself in the first grade and now there's no difference. by his own admission trump is a 6 year old.

Sure, but is there any way that a qb doesn't win this? Which means Reilly or BLM.

Ubi shows plenty of evidence of working. And realistically is it going to cost any more than the aid that will already have to be paid by governments? I mean **** the americans are already spending trillions trying to prop up the stock market. How much more impact would trillions have for individuals?

I mean it's really simple, you want a strong economy you need a robust middle class with disposable income. It's the bottom rungs that drive an economy not the top 1%. Invest in the lower classes and give the ability to spend money the economy will grow to meet this spending.

In a pandemic why not? It's the ordinary working stiffs who need the most help, why not cut out the complications and just say everyone is getting a minimum income to keep food on the table and roof over your head? Hopefully when this all blows over we as a society can seriously re-evaluate how much we give away to the already rich and powerful and we can get some proper protections in place for the working class.

Be better off giving money to employees who lose their jobs. Businesses have proven time and time again that any money doesn't get passed on to people. Perhaps it's time for a universal basic income.

zontar's ears must be burning

But remember, a month ago no one was talking about it.

I wouldn't worry if I was her, this government is very open with their racism.

Speaking from an Alberta perspective, which I am assuming is largely the same, you can open a day home without being licensed, it's just that licensed ones have standards and oversights from the government. My son is in a licensed day home, but it's just a lady in her home and the only kid is her own son right now, but we worry that eventually the body will say to close even though she's fine taking him now.

yup and then when grandma and grandpa die or sick little timmy down the street they wonder why the gubbermint didn't prevent this. The sheer number of people who simply don't understand that this is a team effort to prevent spreading this thing to all sorts of vulnerable people is staggering.

don't forget kushner crowd sourcing ideas on facebook

My company in Calgary (and presumably will be doing the same for their offices in Edmonton, Ottawa and now Winnipeg) basically told everyone to work from home where we can. Seems like it's the sensible thing to do for jobs that can work remotely. Why commute to an office and spread germs all along the way when everyone has the ability to be connected to everything anyway.

Might as well do nothing then.

Because if you hire someone to dress you they will dress you better than that.

oh that's right you ignore the US politics thread. Some people just wear tinfoil hats.

Is this the same doctor who said he wasn't obese?

Time to stop playing by Republicans rules. They are not interested in any compromise so stop pretend they are acting in good faith. Play on their level or else things will continue to slide into the abyss.