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That has been going on for a long long time already and it's your type of attitudes that keep it going. You know how you counteract that? Good old fashioned socialism where you tax the wealthy and give social programs and support to the middle and lower classes... exactly what is starting to happen during a lockdown. Out of crisis comes opportunity and if businesses fail, there will be opportunities for new ones to take their place in the recovery. Status quo wasn't working. This can be a shakeup to actually make changes that improve things.

By all rights Trump should have been toast before he even got himself elected. Never underestimate how stupid people can be.

but muh 'conomy!!! Better people should die and my investment doesn't lose money.

it is going to be a gradual loosening of restrictions, perhaps adding some in vulnerable places but it's going to be a step by step process to get life back on track.

appealing to his humanity, shame Trump has none.

Elliot's problem was that he basically took risks in a lapo offense cause he pushed back against the play safe crap. Blame lapo not the fans.

More super accurate reporting here. Seriously dude, feels ain't reals.

Well I have said since the get go it's up to governments to prop up the people who need it. It's a team effort, but we got a lot of selfish people don't want to get on board.

Respirator.

oh so you're just talking about the baseline rate huh, silly me, I thought you were expecting that sort of thing to sky rocket with this tanked economy. Go on and show me the numbers. Otherwise you're just being alarmist. I don't buy for a second you give a **** about poverty and starvation because if you did you wouldn't be going on and on about how important the economy is. People who focus on the economy tend to be the most selfish types and they only want to get theirs and **** everyone else. I mean you're fine letting more people die just so the economy is strong.

Well where is all this starvation and poverty? Or are you being alarmist and buying the hype and panic being spread by certain circles?

I must have missed all the poverty and starvation going on....

it's not just hospitals that can get overwhelmed. it's supply chains in general if you get a bunch of extra people in an area that aren't normally there. We already see in large cities store shelves that are empty, don't need to put further strain on small communities.

Obama was also campaigning for president 12 years ago right? That's a long time and things have changed since then. He certainly wasn't the establishment choice even if he wound up governing that way.

The language alone in this piece should be your first clue that it's not an objective piece of information. That's why you are wrong. You are taking opinions as facts and not questioning them because it tells you what you want to hear. But this piece is pushing an agenda very obviously. It's not telling you the truth, it's telling you what you want to hear using broad, vague statements and opinions presented as facts.

GP is a **** hole that's why.

First person who tries to say "see no big deal" in my hearing is going to be verbally slapped upside the head for being a dumb ass.

Wasn't his whole campaign based around hope and change? Trump won because he was the anti-establishment candidate. The people deep down, they want change. The establishment they want status quo. Hillary was that, Biden is that. It jsut doesn't resonate with a populace that is feeling every more disenfranchised.

a hyperactive 5 year old would be seen as calm measured and competent next to Trump.

I think you are looking at this entirely too much as a left vs. right issue. That's why I bring up the populism. Populism transcends left or right.It's founded in people's emotions and feelings. Trump told a lot of people things would be great with his brand of populism. Turns out he's pissing people off. But you get a guy saying "my brand of populism is good for you" it can turn people on. Now the catch is that the media will never give a guy like Bernie a fair shake cause they're all deep pockets people who don't want to pay taxes, so a "moderate" is going to be the guy they pump. You can not discount the impact that media has on forming people's early opinions. However once you get through the bullshit of the campaigns to even be the nominee (which in my opinion do much more harm than good) you'd just have one guy touting his ideas to the public. Honestly I think Bernie is the pefect kind of crazy old man to cut through Trumps bullshit. I don't see Biden as that guy. Bernie wasn't ever my favourite choice, but I think he was the right choice given how everything else played out and he is much needed by the United States right now. Biden is the status quo and will just lead to further republican shenanigans going forward.

likely never will again. Pretty big bridge he's gonna burn in as small a league as the CFL.

Because they elected a right wing populist last time, and honestly given how shitty that worked out I think a left wing populist certainly would have had wide ranging appeal across all sorts of people. Honestly I know you think this moderate **** is where it's at, but there is no moderate in the United States, which is why populism is becoming more what people are looking for. Biden inspires no one. He will win because Trump is a tremendous **** up pissing everyone off, but he's a terrible candidate at this time. 4 years ago maybe he'd be better but he's losing his mind and same old same old isn't going to appeal to anyone other than the establishment.

spoken by the most misinformed here. It is OK to question what you are told, but if it's not backed up with sound logic you're not any more informed, just being a contrarian.

Well here is my question... if the government is going to pay for a student to be hired, what's to stop a company such as mine from firing me and hiring a student to do the job?