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Signing Harris just seems a real Taman-esque move. Dunno that we really needed another body in the secondary, it's like the only place they seem to be able to recruit guys for.

If your kicker is struggling to make 1 point converts why the **** wouldn't you go for 2? Seems there was some evidence to suggest it was a worthwhile strategy league wide. Confidence is a big thing for a kicker, if you recognize he is struggling then shelter him as best you can and see if he works out of the funk. When you tell a guy to go do the thing he's struggling with all the time though it just spirals. These aren't robots. I'm not suggesting they pin all their hopes on him rebounding either, you gotta have a contingency plan in place but I'm super hesitant to just throw away that potential without seeing if year 2 was the anomaly or if year 1 was.

But that's all people are saying, he showed a lot as a rookie so why not give him a chance to redeem himself? You can rest assured that if we cut him free and he rebounded with another team there would be people lining up to skewer Walters for letting a good NI kicker get away for nothing. It's like some people think he was never any good. Honestly a lot of his problems could have likely been avoided if they had recognized right away that he had a mental block about the converts and gone for 2 more. He might not have let that convert issue creep into his field goal game.

I honestly think some fans want a gallows set up at half time and whichever player is the scapegoat of the game gets publicly hanged as the half time entertainment.

He's a giant *****.... No apparently he's been battling the flu or something the last while so he's skipping the allstar game.

I believe so. There is really a lot to like about this deal.

Cool. This should be a good signing. Get an established vet to be the leader of the offense, having some experience playing with our Willy is a bonus as well.

The info he needs is "Will anyone else give me more money?"

Dressler probably knows this is likely his last big deal so he wants to maximize it so he's waiting for everyone to give him money rather than taking the first good offer he gets. Patience people.

So what you are saying is that there are a variety of reasons for guys to sign places in free agency? Doesn't that totally contradict your previous post?

No what those movies tried to tell us was that guys like Stallone were upset that studios got actual real talented actors to get in shape and act the **** out of roles rather than giving them to jacked guys who can't talk so good.

You know what I feel better about the talent on the OL than receivers especially with Moore not being back. Receiver just might be the spot we are most lacking. I like Denmark but he can't be our best guy and I don't have a terribly high opinion of Adams. Canadians are OK but not game breakers so they need to be surrounded by guys who can be that.

Going to either Calgary or Winnipeg is the best case scenario. Either way the gappers are going to be pitch a fit.

TJH wasn't really a flash in the pan, he just let a bad attitude destroy what could have been a nice career. Carr I do think made a mistake taking the big money deal. Once you get paid like that expectations are different and you become a target if you don't produce enough to warrant the money. If he had stayed in Winnipeg I wonder if his career wouldn't have worked out differently.

But you clearly are letting incorrect opinions cloud your vision. Anyone who watches RNH knows he's not a soft player. Not a banger? Sure but few guys actually are. He'll muck it up though and go to hard areas. That's not soft no matter how you spin it. With your parroting of stupid crap like he's a soft floater you are slamming him. Of course he's not in the same teir as the guys I mentioned, I took extreme examples to prove a point. You know who is soft among the Oilers top forwards? Eberle and Purcell that's it. The rest of them will mix it up but they have better things to do than run around trying to be third line grinders. You surround them with some actual defencemen and some grit in the bottom 6 and no one complains at all about their softness. Let us not also discount their seasons being coached by Dallas Eakins, a man who said that a perfect game you throw no hits. That's the kind of coaching these guys have had to unlearn.

You don't like good players? You just eliminated a lot of guys. Patrick Kane doesn't play that way, Sidney Crosby doesn't play that way, Pavel Datsyuk doesn't play that way.... it's a bullshit excuse that people like to trot out when they don't know enough about the game to form real opinions. Just slam people without any evidence at all. "He's too soft! Not good enough for my team!!!" Fact is if RNH stepped onto the Jets tomorrow he'd be the teams best centre.

probably gave him an incentive laden contract, and given how Jones has shown a willingness to cut players popularity be damned I'm thinking Durant didn't have a leg to stand on in the negotiations

That's why I told you to go watch the kid actually play. The media likes to parrot this idea that the Oilers players are all a bunch of pansies who couldn't find their own end of the rink if they had a map, it's just not true at all. RNH especially is a very responsible two way centre who back checks hard and makes a lot of plays defensively. Has since his 2nd year in the league. That's why his offense hasn't ever matched his pace in his rookie year. In his rookie year he was sheltered and could just play O, ever since then though he's had to be the guy to match other teams top lines. Did you know that last season teams started to match their best players away from RNH? Do you think soft floaters get hurt blocking shots like RNH did? Since you like sportsnets anaylsis maybe go dig up the pre-game bit they did last night showing the highlight pack of RNH busting his ass to break up plays on the back check and their conversation about how the Oilers will miss him defensively more than anything... and lo and behold they gave up 6 goals last night with him out of the line up. He is the most chippy of the forwards Edmonton has drafted. Eberle sure he's a softer player but RNH ain't and never has been. He was skinny when he was drafted but he's up to a pretty average weight now.

plus with the dollar being in the shitter things are going to be pricey anyway.

You should try watching RNH play some time because you clearly have never done so in the past if that is your assessment of the player.

He'd never have made it to FA last year?

Is he? Or would he like so many before him get exposed without the support of the guys in Nashville ahead of him? That's arguably the best D in the league he came from and Edmonton is arguably the worst. Lots of guys asked to do too much there had their careers diminished because of it. Meanwhile RNH can actually handle playing top line centre and still has some upside to his game as well.

and yet I know the people you generally watch movies with and this sentence makes no sense....

I'd rather he be the 4th option.

It's pretty simple, Moore straight up hurt too much, Denmark has always been a complimentary guy, too much attention on him from a D and he's not as good and Adams is lazy and not as good as people wanted him to be. The solution is MOAR TALENT!