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lots of good players, but how many great players? How many guys are legitimately players we can consider among the best at their positions in the league? Some linebackers maybe, Westerman, some DBs perhaps but other than that is there anyone?

But is that a case of PTSD or not? I mean we want a lot of players back but if we had an upgrade on a bunch of these guys would we care if some didn't return?

Outdoor Grey Cup in Winnipeg... It's going to be cold so Burris if he gets there is going to **** the bed like he always does. Only cup he won was indoors and many times he took a good Calgary team to an exit in the Western playoffs because they were outdoors in Calgary and it was nippy out. Guy is such a fair weather qb.

bah the goalies biggest problem before was Eakins system. The guys they had before weren't as useless as they were in Edmonton. Hell look at Dubnyks numbers with Kreuger and what he's doing now. Eakins ruined him for a couple years. Did the same to Scrivens and Fasth. It's not hard to understand, Eakins set that team back years. He talked about having to break guys down and rebuild them. Well he was great at breaking players but absolutely useless at rebuilding them. Todd Mclellan took on a huge task here and there's signs of it working, trouble is the D was decimated prior to him getting there and it's damned near impossible to get top pairing defencemen these days.

Well yeah but Eakins not have Connor McJesus or a couple of the D-men they got now. Sekera who has had a poor start to the season (Eakins had Petry who is a comparable player, maybe even better but I'm a bit of a Petry fan) Gryba who is at best a bottom pairing guy and Reinhart (been hurt a lot of the season) are the defensive changes. Yes McDavid is a whole different animal but honestly it's not the difference in players. Eakins just ******* sucked and made people worse.

It's not a point for screwing up. It's a point for getting the ball into or through the endzone. Making the field goal just has a bigger reward is all.

Same thing with the Oilers, the veterans on the team absolutely suck ass. The young players are the only thing worth a damn on that team. Nurse and Draisaitl stepped up nicely and holy crap is McDavid good. That kid can hockey. Dangerous every time he touched the puck and on the tying goal absolutely clowned Subban along the boards. Subban really can't be losing physical battles on the boards to 18 year old players.

awesome, I was just going to dig this up and post it.

This is the biggest thing to me. Our receivers aren't good enough, we can't seem to find an impact player on the opposite side of Westerman on the DL, the OL has been changing players constantly for the entire time Walters has been here. We've had a bunch of good rbs but none that have really grabbed the job by the balls and taken it. For my money this roster just flat out isn't good enough to start blaming the coach.

Good to see after all that a loony tune can still walk into Parliament and start shooting people. All I know is it's likely Harper's fault...................... It's not Harpers fault, he was hiding in a closet the whole time!

If someone listed his strengths would you actually listen to them though? Or would you just ignore them completely and insist that because he doesn't shave every morning that he's really a terrible coach? You have made up your mind and nothing is going to change it.

Now there's a haircut you can set your watch to

plus you try and play instruments in the cold it's going to sound like utter **** anyway.

Some people just aren't happy unless they're bitching about something.

Should wait until we actually see how his government performed... Usually takes quite a few years to really see the impact of a governments actions.

Let's be completely honest with ourselves here, Miller talking to assistants is probably little more than him talking to his buddy Khari Jones, "Hey Khari you know we're likely going to have an OC position opening up eh? eh? eh?"

Bad parenting that's all

Andrew Defence can GTFO. Another mact legacy.

You really think a female is best for the Conservtives? There is still too much sexism I think and the base of the party (Alberta) has had some issues with female party leaders lately that likely stir up all sorts of sexist attitudes.

To me the game day thread should be for game day not day before game day but that's just me...

Yeah Prentice couldn't even run a successful campaign when he had a dynasty behind him how could he possibly win anything nationally? Honestly the Conservative Party to me eye has a severe and overwhelming lack of talent right now. The best options for leader really really suck...

He is a plus player so far this year. Oilers under Eakins were a big minus team so a guy not scoring much is going to have a minus rating. Every oiler racked up big minuses plus minus is a reflection of a team not a player

The only time Yakupov was really bad was when Eakins was coaching. He did lead rookies in goals (and the Oilers) and tied in rookie points the lockout year with Kreuger and he finished strongly after Eakins was fired. Yeah he is working really well with McDavid but it's not like he was totally useless before that, excepting with all time bad head coach Dallas Eakins.

Yeah with Willy it was always 6-8 weeks minimum. That's what they said and it never changed. Best case 2 months but everyone knew that it wasn't going to be.

Couple of questions I'd like to ask the new stud. 1. Can you bring all of your receivers with you? 2. Are you going to do anything like whatever the last guy did to get cut? I'd settle for just #9