17to85

This is just such a dumb way to look at it. You don't just start cutting players out of spite. Injuries or not he's our best receiver and cutting him makes the team worse. The scouting staff has been incapable of bringing in a good receiver so far and who knows what's available in free agency. Can't cut Moore until we have a star receiver to replace him. With all due respect, if you're paying a player more than he's worth, that's dumb. If we're going to improve as a team we have to be smarter than this. Moore has not produced for us going on two seasons now (1 TD) and had just one good year with BC before that. That's on Walters and I don't care if it's because of injury, trying too hard, or because he forgot to sacrifice a chicken in his basement. Too much money for a non-productive player. Bullshit. When he's been healthy Moore has been producing catches and yards. Yeah his numbers are lower this year, but maybe the complete lack of passing attack in several of the games has an impact on that? When the passing game is working though Moore is catching a ton of balls. Let's drop this "he's not producing" garbage. He's the most consistent player on our offense AINEC

That sounds impossible, is there a set of numbers that don't have an average?No but this isn't accounting and you can't learn politics by playing Number Munchers. So the ndp and liberals and communists are exactly the same? The conservatives and reform are exactly the same? How is 17to18 claiming that harper brought the torys further away from the far right of there is no gradient. Just a black and white set of binary ideologies? Not at all. There is far left, left, right, and far right. But there is no centre. And anyone claiming to be "centre" is kidding themselves. No the centre is the point between left and right, it means that where ever you draw the line between left and right, the centre can skip onto either side of it and do things associated with either side. If you have degrees of left and right then you also must have a centre.

You should vote conservative then, they don't touch the social stuff, unless you buy into that hidden agenda nonsense

Left and right are really narrow minded views of politics anyway. I much prefer the models that have 4 sides. I am for example a fiscal conservative, but I'm also more libertarian while the conservative party is kind of not. Nothing is really black and white, there's shades of grey everywhere especially in politics. Heck I consider myself fairly right wing with some moderate tendencies but holy cow there are people way further to the right of me.

If I needed a lawyer I'd want the one who does what's best for me not what's best for his own pocket book, which is what the slimey types do.

We need to let his hit points replenish!

Also remember who his agent is. The guy is the slimiest slime ball ever.

Honestly no one is going to stray too far from the centre anyway. You know why? Because these people care about getting elected and you don't get elected by appealing to the fringes, you appeal to people by not rocking the boat and doing the same things we've been doing for ever. You try and get crazy people are going to vote you right out of office. It's why Harper had to muzzle all the loonies on the right and it's why Mulcair had to drag the wing nuts on the left kicking and screaming towards the middle.

Ottawa also hasn't had their starting qb get hurt either which puts them ahead of every team in the league except Calgary and Hamilton.

Hey if people were terrified of the rights hidden agenda I expect the same results from the lefts hidden agenda. Honestly this election has been fascinating to watch. Polls up and down, parties rising and falling almost daily. Quite something.

I also remember a while back when TSN had some training camp stuff on around the league and this rookie receiver for the Als was running his mouth about how he was probably going to get 2000 yards... Lots of people are that right mix of arrogant and ignorant and don't appreciate how good the CFL actually is. Oh you're a good college player who had a cup of coffee in the NFL? Well guess what, most of the guys in the CFL fit that bill too.

But his production in terms of catches and yards is really good. So he's not scoring TDs, that's a Bomber problem not a Moore problem. Moore has been playing like a top receiver when healthy, just that he's missed a lot of time.

It's never one or the other. If you have no base it takes more time to build. The Bombers might as well have been an expansion team the way things went. Patience was required instead we kept blowing **** up every year or two.

Sorry to disappoint you but if the Bombers beat the aforementioned teams and everything else remains equal, then the Blue will be in the playoffs.lol! First they have to beat those two bottom dwellers but that won't be enough. That is just two games. To make the playoffs they have to beat >.500 teams and so far each one they have played they have been crushed. Montreal and BC have shown they can beat >.500 teams so right now I have to give them the edge. Sorry.No need to be sorry. There is nothing in what I said that isn't true. Should I explain it to you? I'd like to hear it. Beating BC and Montreal only will put us at 6-12 and that's not going to do it. Unless this is some wordplay thing. Then forget it. Beat the Lions and Als and you may not need to win any other games depending on what those teams do. Remember the Als would have to cross over and would need to flat out beat the Bombers record, doable but not guaranteed. If they beat the Lions as well then Winnipeg would hold the tie breaker over them and they too would need to flat out beat the Bombers record. Possible but not a given. If the Bombers only get to 6 wins those other teams need to get to 7 (or 6 plus a tie) Really the most basic thing you can do to make the playoffs is beat the teams you should beat and keep them behind you. The Bombers at this moment have a chance to do that. They wouldn't be the first team to make the playoffs below .500. BC has qb and coach issues, so does Montreal, I don't know how you give them the advantage if Winnipeg manages to beat them.

Purely hypothetical, but what if the offense lights up the CFL under Nichols? Could that possibly suggest Marcel wasn't the problem? We have a whole lot of other years where Marcel has run an offence to base his performance on not just his time here. He's a problem, the only question is whether there is anyone better available and willing to come to Winnipeg.

How about we talk about the years before that? Rebuilding isn't just about a new person coming in, it's about what's already in the system when a person comes in, and in the Bombers case the QB and NI situations have been bad for a long long time and not a lot has been built. When Kelly took over the team basically had Brown and Labatte and a bunch of meh canadians. Kelly didn't do much to add to the NIs in his year, then Labatte leaves in free agency and we have Brown retiring and we're left with a bunch of meh at NI. Mack brought in some guys like Watson and Muamba, but Watsons injuries and Muamba going to the NFL again left it pretty meh. Now we're in a situation where they're still trying to get some quality NIs in here. The qb thing is even worse. Kelly destroyed the position. Mack went out and signed Pierce and Jyles as vets but neither one of them lasted. Pierce was broken and no one was able to develop. Now we have Willy but he's missing a lot of time to injury and the backups aren't developing. When nothing ever gets built it doesn't matter who you hire it's not going to be a quick turn around.

And if two completely disconnected-from-the-league Twitter handles aren't reliable, then who is????? Hey they don't let you post anything on the internet unless it's true, especially not on twitter.

Quoted for truth. That’s your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. Not sure why this question bothers you so much…it’s a legit question that a GM could need to consider/manage. It's a legit dumb question because Nichols ain't getting paid like a starter and even if he was I got a lot of other areas I can cut salary in to fit both in. Picard cut alone saves a huge amount of money. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion Absolutely. This place is like Animal Farm. Everyone is equal but some think they are more equal than others. This is completely untrue. There is a big discrepancy between many posters. This particular question is dumb for a number of reasons that have been pointed out by me and others.

Quoted for truth. That’s your opinion and you’re certainly entitled to it. Not sure why this question bothers you so much…it’s a legit question that a GM could need to consider/manage. It's a legit dumb question because Nichols ain't getting paid like a starter and even if he was I got a lot of other areas I can cut salary in to fit both in. Picard cut alone saves a huge amount of money.

The Bombers stopped the run game short a bunch of times. Put a team in 2nd and long because you stop the run game and it makes it a lot harder to be productive on offence. Same reason the Bombers get away from the run. When it's being stuffed it's not really that great an idea to just keep trying to pound it. Bombers did to Sask what so many teams have done to the Bombers lately. Stop the run and say "ok your rookie qb has to beat us with his arm"

Yeah Jones gave the impression he was looking to get rid of Nichols from the get go. Even last year they would try and get their 3rd stringer into games. I don't think it's fair to judge him on how Edmonton viewed him, They wanted something else at their #2 qb slot but no one did them a favour of outright beating him.

This is exactly what I'm getting at. We've seen tons of highly touted built for the CFL qbs come up here and flame out. Until he proves himself he's just another prospect qb.

Is he as good as Tee Martin?

We can thank 17to85 for that. Was that a fat joke? One thing to keep in mind, when Noeller starts calling people fat he's doing it like Homer when he started to tell it like it is... "You're the fattest one in the car Homer!"

In todays NHL you don't see many "suited to the role" 4th lines anymore. It's a good place for young players to get sheltered minutes and provide depth scoring without much pressure. Lots of teams trying to go with 3 offensive lines and one checking line these days. Ehlers doesnt strike me as suited to a checking line. No and that's not what I said, 3rd lines generally become checking lines and 4th lines are lines that can play against softer competition.