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Brown and O'Shea were rivals on the field and when Brown was playing and O'Shea was a special teams coordinator. I seem to think that more than once O'Sheas specials teams would come up with a play to beat the Bombers as well which likely makes Brown dislike him. As a player Brown was great, as a media guy he is a bit full of himself and comes across as too much of a know it all. Plus this thing he does where he tries to show off his vocabulary and make every statement as wordy as possible bothers me. Reeks of a guy trying to sound smarter than he is.

I want to see him actually do "something". Sit players for dumb penalties. You don't have to yell at them, just point to the bench and leave it at that. He's done nothing as a coach to reduce the number of stupid penalties and I'm sick and tired of it. Don't throw a guy under the bus to the media, but if someone take 3-4 dumb penalties, hey, he's not on the roster next game. A coach can make players accountable without going apeshit on them. MOS is doing neither. Ok so who other than Kuale has been a chronic taker of penalties? Picard I guess but who's going to replace him if you want to staple him to the bench? The penalty on the punt was the biggest one but even that wasn't some discipline problem, it was simply missing the ball. Adams took a roughing penalty, but it was a pretty weak one, Taking Dressler out of bounds and Dressler goes down easy once past the sidelines. Sure it's a by the books penalty, but not like Adams really gave him a shot. Johnson took a couple in recent weeks but the one on Sunday I believe was a frustration thing where he got caught for the retaliation. It's not like it's one guy all the time, it's just a lot of frustrations boiling over when a game is being pissed away. The 3 phases of the team all start pulling their own weight in a game you'll see less of that frustration.

If you think Bomber fans take losses well I don't know what to tell you. The coach doesn't need to appease fans in the media, the only way a coach can truly appease fans is to win games. I mean there are a lot of things I'd be disappointed in a coach blabbing about in the media. How he disciplines players is one of them. People have these crazy expectations of what a coach is going to say. Times have changed, with how quickly information gets spread around without any kind of context or source checking everyone has to walk on eggshells. You don't hear any other coaches in the CFL saying much more. Chamblin did but he was clearly in a save his own ass mentality since he was sensing that the noose was tightening around his neck. I still believe Mike O'Shea is a good head coach. I believe he is dealing with a terrible offensive coordinator and a lack of talent and depth in some areas. Now we can talk about how he should have fired Bellefeuille in the offseason, but it's not always as easy as that. The Bombers are fighting a stigma about being a coaching graveyard and firing even more coaches doesn't help shed that stigma. For that reason I'd give O'Shea more time, but my patience with Bellefool is over. It was over last year but this year he's gotta go for sure or it'll cost everyone their jobs.

Agreed, that's the first thing I noticed on the play... not only was the punt right down the middle it also had no hang time ... the ST unit was basically SOL right from the beginning... Lirim shoulders most of the blame for that particular punt return... Was it a matter of Liram putting it in the wrong spot or was that where he was asked to put it? If you go back virtually every one of the returns for TDs this year have been when we (mistakenly) kick from deep in our end to the middle of the field. I am pretty sure that is what PT was calling for a middle punt because Liram was NEVER trying to punt that anywhere but the middle of the field (or maybe the left hash) Or, more reasonable explanation, when punting from deep he's trying too hard to kick the laces off theball and his placement goes out the window.

The problem is that too many fans have anger issues and they just expect everyone else to be as angry as they are. They want a head coach ranting and raving about how angry he is, they want Bob Irving to be unloading on the coaches and players for playing to poorly, they want everyone to feel like they do. They don't want the head coach to be calm and give non answers, they don't want Bob Irving to let the coach be calm. Look at how this place is immediately after a loss, they want everyone in the media and with the team to react like that.

Well it was Shell that replaced him in game so I don't see that changing really. Only other possible option to me is having someone like Washington move up and let someone else cover Washingtons spot, but probably easiest to just have Shell take Randles spot.

I'm just scared he will be the HC. But nothing would surprise me they way the Bombers are run. If they want to make a current coordinator with head coaching experience the replacement for O'Shea why in gods name would it be the guy running the weakest part of the team and not Ritchie Hall who has actually got his charges to improve as the year has gone on?

Listen it's going to take some time, Bellefool got a reprieve by having Drew Willy carry the offense to some decent performances early this year and now that he's hurt Bellefool can hide behind the "well the backups just suck" shield. It won't last forever but it does extend his life here. Just be patient and he will use all that rope he's been given to hang himself.

SO everyone said the guy should be fired but now we ***** about it happening because we wanted Bellefool fired first? Come on guys. Yeah we need to change the offensive coordinator, that display on Sunday was embarrassing, but one step at a time. People said they'd never fire Tracey because he's buddies with O'Shea, but I think it clearly shows that the team knows when there's a problem and will make changes. Bellefool was always going to be the last coordinator fired because the head coach has the least familiarity with the offense but do we really think that they go into their meetings thinking everything is just fine with the O? It might take until the offseason for it to happen but I am confident in saying that Bellefool will not be the offensive coordinator here next season.

Yeah the D was frustrated because they got no help. Bellefool called a game like he was afraid. Wasn't until things were out of hand he let Brohm even try a throw longer than 3yards. Guy might be a poor qb but when you coach like he's a poor qb you just make it easier to defend and suck the life out of your own team

60% of Sask's plays were running on a windy day... MB still called 60% pass - blame OL all you want, change personnel every year... its his playbook They tried to establish the run game early and it was stuffed. Need some blocking to run the ball

There is not one NI on this team I wouldn't cut if that's what it took to get Muamba here. Hell there ain't many imports I'd want here ahead of Muamba. You have 1 job Walters, get it done.

bad day to be a Tyler

Do you think he'd learn more standing behind centre running for his life or watching from the sidelines? Not like this is a raw rookie here who just needs game reps, he's had game reps with Edmonton quite a bit this year. He needs to learn the playbook and the offence and he will do that better in the film room and on the sidelines than playing in the game this week.Quarterbacks running for their lives isn't going to be unique to this weekend! No but when you're trying to get a guys understanding of an offense up to par it's better for him to not have to worry about that kind of thing. He's been around the CFL long enough and played enough he knows what game speed is, he needs time to mentally get the game plan in his head, that is better served watching this week than playing. People don't like Brohm that's fine, but let's not say stupid stuff like Nichols should start after only being here for a couple days. Even a prime Ricky Ray wouldn't start on only a couple days.

a night where 114 yards and 2 ints wasn't the worst quarterbacking on the field.... that's like watching Marve last game but the other qb be worse! how is that possible?

Do you think he'd learn more standing behind centre running for his life or watching from the sidelines? Not like this is a raw rookie here who just needs game reps, he's had game reps with Edmonton quite a bit this year. He needs to learn the playbook and the offence and he will do that better in the film room and on the sidelines than playing in the game this week.

Given that he's a pretty terrible back trying to run through traffic I'm going to guess his blocking isn't anything to write home about. He's a small quick back, anything physical isn't his forte. Give him space and let him run that's really all you can expect 5'10"..201 pounds isnt really small for a back Well he plays small then I just assumed he had the size to match that.

Given that he's a pretty terrible back trying to run through traffic I'm going to guess his blocking isn't anything to write home about. He's a small quick back, anything physical isn't his forte. Give him space and let him run that's really all you can expect

What do you honestly expect from him though? Lots of sacks and tackles for a loss? Seems to me he's sort of taking the role of big strong guy trying to make room for others in the defence this year. That's not a position that generally gets yourself covered in glory.

No, no you don't. The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case. I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM. He was corrected last time as well. He never lets little things like facts get in the way of his ranting.

The only time he's ever started a game he was 14/23 for 194 yards no tds and no ints.... Let's see what he can do before we go completely doom and gloom. Those numbers aren't horrible, perhaps the guy just sucks coming off the bench into shitty games?Yeah resting on the bench tends to affect a QBs aim.Maybe resting ,caused his eyes to stray to the turf hence his ground balls.How many turf skips we gonna get now? 90% of the game is half mental.

The only time he's ever started a game he was 14/23 for 194 yards no tds and no ints.... Let's see what he can do before we go completely doom and gloom. Those numbers aren't horrible, perhaps the guy just sucks coming off the bench into shitty games?

Get a grip on reality. In the first blowout vs TiCats Drew Willy was a whopping 3 of 6 for 48 yards and zero TDs. In the next game vs Esks Willy was a masterful 7-17 for 81 yards. Next blowout vs TiCats Willy was 16-27 for 171 yards with one TD and one INT for a pick 6. As Winnipeg's starter Willy produced a total of 8 TDs in 7 games, before his injury. He had virtually the same QB passer rating as rookie Rakeem Cato, who, at that point, had played one less game. Winnipeg's O production has been mostly putrid, with the occasional big-play exception, regardless of who is in at QB since around the the halfway point of last year. Injured. Injured. Injured. Yeah, Doublezero, you really need to check the facts before you post. He got injured in each of those outings like Goalie said. You act like he threw for 48 yards in 4 quarters. And btw, that 171 yards was 2 quarters before he wrecked his knee. So he was on his way to 300. Do you even watch the games? Plus the game in Edmonton was in a heavy rainfall which makes the passing game dicey anyway.

Still better than Brohm and Marve.

Except that the defence has come along nicely this season. They still have a weakness on the defensive line but they're getting better and have been solid the last few games.