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Y is it around here when someone has a different opinion good or bad people like you jump on it as trolling? This is a forum no? Or is it a kumbyas let's not breathe a word of criticism your a troll only forum?It's more a case of choosing to believe that no one could possibly be that stupid so it must be trolling for a reaction. It's not about differing opinions, it's about opinions so unbelievably stupid.Ok who gets to decide that you?Noeller? If it is someone trolling just don't react no? Is Doug Brown an idiot too?It's a slippery slope your traveling. It's the stuff of kids in the school yard. The kids that have been there the longest think it's their school yard and they get to decide what is allowed. Read ahead and you'll see the terms laid out. It's basically threats "Ban him" followed by name-calling. "Stupid", "Troll", until the poor fellow conforms or leaves. Sad really. I'm not going to get into the reasons why they are like this but it is interesting to observe how flummoxed they get when the target of their aggression stands his ground and defies them. I wonder what happens next ... I only call people stupid if they post stupid things and don't provide a proper argument to back it up. You on the other hand seem to be of the opinion that every opinion is valid because everyone is allowed their opinions. That's a quaint notion that I wholeheartedly reject. There are plenty of opinions out there that are devoid or merit and are indeed stupid. You don't like being called out on dumb ideas then maybe apply some critical thinking skills and come up with some opinions that aren't stupid. Or just take your ball and go home, that's what people who can't apply critical thinking tend to do. For what it's worth, you're way off the mark if you think people standing their ground flummox me, I spend all my time here trying to get people to stand their ground so I can have a proper argument. You're not interested in that though, you just want your lunatic ideas given credit but no one gives stupid ideas credit because they're stupid. In summary get over yourself and realize that people are picking apart your dumb ideas because they're dumb not because they're different. You're not as smart as you think you are.
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Grey Cup & Banjo Bowl Temporary Stands
17to85 replied to AtlanticRiderFan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Who cares about creativity? Just stating the truth and Winnipeg has a stereotype about being cheap for a very good reason. It's a city full of cheap skates and bargain hunters. If the city is so cheap why does the average winnipeg citizen have record levels of household debt. Doesn't really jive with your argument of the "cheap Winnipegger." If they are cheap, they wouldn't have record levels of household debt, would they? This is seriously an argument that you bring up? Household debt is climbing at an alarming rate all across Canada, that's not a specific thing to WInnipeg it's just a function of how society has changed. More people use credit to buy things it doesn't speak to cheapness, simply a societal trend for people to charge more. -
It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah it's like some people only watched the Hamilton and Edmonton games or something -
The fact that the polls have had the 3 parties at pretty similar levels of support makes them pretty meaningless. It's going to depend on who gets votes in what ridings and how many seats everyone gets. This is an area the Conservatives understand really really well and they do a lot of targetting of specific ridings to ensure they get seats. A slight lead for one party doesn't necessarily translate into a win on election night if the other party has enough seats. Either way we're likely looking at a minority government which means a few more years of fighting and bitching and painting the other guys as the devil incarnate.
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Y is it around here when someone has a different opinion good or bad people like you jump on it as trolling? This is a forum no? Or is it a kumbyas let's not breathe a word of criticism your a troll only forum?It's more a case of choosing to believe that no one could possibly be that stupid so it must be trolling for a reaction. It's not about differing opinions, it's about opinions so unbelievably stupid. Ok who gets to decide that you?Noeller? If it is someone trolling just don't react no? Is Doug Brown an idiot too?It's a slippery slope your traveling.yes I get to decide. And yes Doug brown has been known to say dumb things time to time as well. Very high on himself
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Grey Cup & Banjo Bowl Temporary Stands
17to85 replied to AtlanticRiderFan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Who cares about creativity? Just stating the truth and Winnipeg has a stereotype about being cheap for a very good reason. It's a city full of cheap skates and bargain hunters. -
It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
So the logic is just close losses? That doesn't fly. The Bombers first year under Lapo they lost a pile of close games didn't make the team any better. I ain't saying the Bombers are leaps and bounds better than anyone, but when you have lost every game this season and are down to qb#3 because of injuries you aren't better than anyone. Maybe they sweep the Bombers, certainly Labour Day is a historic win for them, but I don't buy the logic that they're better than the Bombers at this point. That just reeks of being overly negative about the Bombers compared to other teams in the CFL. -
Grey Cup & Banjo Bowl Temporary Stands
17to85 replied to AtlanticRiderFan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Winnipeg sports fans ARE cheap. Let's see if they keep paying high prices for the Jets once the novelty wears off. -
It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I would love to read your rationale behind this statement to be honest. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, I just want to know why you are saying that before I decide if you're out of your mind or have some validity to it. -
Think about it, stand with your feet close together and see how stable you are, then widen your stance and see how it changes. Your feet are your base, if it's too narrow you lose balance and power.
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Y is it around here when someone has a different opinion good or bad people like you jump on it as trolling? This is a forum no? Or is it a kumbyas let's not breathe a word of criticism your a troll only forum? It's more a case of choosing to believe that no one could possibly be that stupid so it must be trolling for a reaction. It's not about differing opinions, it's about opinions so unbelievably stupid.
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If I were Wade miller I would...
17to85 replied to sportmentary2012's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think OShea is a good coach because the players play for him. No one played for Burke which is what made him a terrible head coach, but OShea is the kind of guy that players like because he treats them with respect and he's got their backs in public. As for the coordinators, Hall isn't my ideal defensive coordinator but he does have a good track record in the CFL, Bellefool too has a track record and it's consistent. Not terrible but not great, average at best. It's not ideal but again, average isn't the same as straight up bad. I have no idea how good the special teams coaching is, but I do know that a lot of the issues on special teams have really been errors on the part of players. So really the coaching staff may not be the best, but I don't think they are the major problem on this team right now. Too many places that need talent upgrades before we really pin point the coaches as holding the team back. -
So you're now saying that there are no cumulative effects to getting pounded game after game? Yeah, you're right, you're done. Sometimes there are, sometimes there aren't. The way his knee got landed on in Hamilton that injury likely happens to a completely healthy player too. That's the thing, football is a violent sport and there's lots of hits that take a guy from healthy to injured. Was it a result of the cumulative hits on him? I don't believe that for one second, to me it's just a guy getting hit in the knee and and injury resulting from it.
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If I were Wade miller I would...
17to85 replied to sportmentary2012's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I don't believe the coaching is sub par. I think we lack talent at canadian positions and along both lines and that makes whatever the coaches are doing largely irrelevant. Gotta be able to win the battles on the lines consistently in order to make the game plan work. Coaching to me is more about the final step of a championship team, I don't see this roster as being good enough yet to realistically compete for a championship outside of the "on any given sunday" idea. -
If I were Wade miller I would...
17to85 replied to sportmentary2012's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yes, we've had a bad run of hiring coaches, no doubt.But you simply can't say - "hire the right coaches", there is no such magic concoction...unless it's a fairy tale book. We haven't just had a run of bad luck for 15+ years. We chose rookie coaches who we hoped would become good coaches. We fired coaches during the season when good coaches have jobs and replaced them with more rookie coaches. That's a systemic problem. My solution is to hire coaches who already know what they're doing, who have a history of winning and not to replace HC's during the season so you have your choice of the best coaches. The list of coaches who are proven and without jobs is limited to people who are retired or too old to do the job. That's why everyone is promoting coordinators. The real problem in Winnipeg is that they jumped the gun firing Ritchie, Berry and Lapo (even though I was never sold on Lapo) and replaced them mid season with worse options and never even tried to find better candidates once the offseason rolled around. (though in Berrys case they just hired the biggest fool going to replace him in the offseason) It's a lack of patience with the guys they do hire and then replacing them with worse options that is the problem. That is why we need to give this current group a good long run in charge. The roster wasn't great when they took over and it's not up to par yet either. Walters needs to get enough talent on this team before we get too critical of the coaches. -
It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
To be completely fair it probably is the easiest part of the schedule. When they don't play themselves then they can't use the "playing saskatchewan" as the easy part of the schedule. -
Around the CFL Regular Season Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Hey I much prefer the winters in Manitoba to Calgary. **** chinooks. All they do is make you a ***** and it makes a giant ******* mess when the snow routinely melts and freezes. -
Christo Bilukdi And Andy Mulumba watch
17to85 replied to Blue in the loops's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Never mind that all of the top guys from that draft tried the NFL. It was a risk that at the time was seen as entirely reasonable. -
I couldn't agree more, however, I have a dreaded feeling both of those teams will be playoff bound and looking down on us at season's end. Well, we'll see. If we are on the outside looking in, will anything be done about it? Good question. Interesting to see that Montreal just fired Higgins. If Popp was in Wpg would he have pulled the trigger on O'Shea by now? We seem to be a lot more tolerant of failure here than in other cities. Really? Is that why we're on the 4th gm in the last 10 years and the 6th head coach in that same time frame? You really think that says patience? To me it's a lot of impatience
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It's going to be sweet watching the ticats inevitable collapse. That team is so arrogant and so cocky and things are coming so easily right now, it won't last.
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HA! you think Philly is giving up all that for one year of Buff? Best you can get is 1st round pick and a B prospect. Sanheim has taken big strides since being drafted. He ain't moving for a rental player.Sekera got a first and A prospect. He now plays for the oilers not the kings. Buff now would get more than sanheim and a 1st. At tge deadline he'd get sanheim and a first. That's what top pairing d men get and that's what buff is. You Damn rights he'd get that if Sekera got the same.Sekera was a rental. They trade buff now and he gets more for sure. Easily. If the jets had to retain 1 1.5 million of Buff salary they could. It's just 1 year I am going to disagree about the return for Sekera being an A prospect.
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Bombers interested in Jasper Simmons, UPDATE: Signed to PR
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
No we don't, 3 OL, 1 receiver, 1 receiver/fullback, 1 DL, 1 CB = 7. We currently start 1 more canadian than we need to which is why guys like Hurl and Bucknor take so much ****. We don't need them starting and could easily put an american in their spots. -
Yep true but Hurl was signed to a big contract to be an impact Cdn. He has not been terrible I agree but also not anywhere near the impact player we need at MLB. No he wasn't. He was signed to a mid level contract for a Canadian player and that seems fair to me. If he was signed to a big contract to be an impact Canadian he'd be making well over 200k a year, probably closer to 300.
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Grey Cup & Banjo Bowl Temporary Stands
17to85 replied to AtlanticRiderFan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The only Grey Cup I've had the fortune of attending live was 09 in Calgary... and it was fantastic even without the 13th man ending. Just a totally different feeling to the game and it was well worth it. Anyone missing it because the home team isn't there is just nuts if you ask me. The ending of that game was oh so great! I loved being surrounded by crying Rider fans. As those idiots were all celebrating, I was yelling "too many men! Too many men!" HAHAHAHAHA. Made that whole trip very worth while. We even passed a bus full of Rider fans on the way home the next day and put the front page of the Calgary Herald in our car window for all the rider fans to see as we blared the horn on the way by!! The ******* gappers were annoying the entire day leading up to the game, but you could literally hear every single one of their hearts breaking when the ref called the penalty. Even better was the one lone Als fan a few rows behind me losing his mind at the win. The Bombers need to hurry up and win a Grey Cup because I want to be that happy about a win. -
you also need a good defensive line to keep them clean. Ever listen to the folks in BC talk about what the defensive linemen do there? They keep the OL off bighill and eleminian so that they can make tackles. Do you see our defensive line doing that much? I don't. They suck at disrupting the offensive line. They also suck at getting pressure on the qb. That group has just been a big disappointment this season.