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Around the CFL Regular Season Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why in the world would Hervey have to prove anything. A contract was offered and accepted. If the player wants a 1+1 then the player should demand it and refuse to accept the offer on the table. Yeah I don't understand that either. Is there anyone who can explain the reasoning behind that? If Edmonton only offers 2+1 shouldn't it be up to the player and his representation to say "I want a 1+1 contract? -
Sounds to me like moore and denmark are the first reads and they're good at getting open, when not theball is going to other places. Honestly apart from a few quibbles about going away from the running game too quickly I do like a lot of what the offense has been doing this year and that includes using a variety of weapons.
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You don't pay players like Moore and Denmark the big bucks and not build an offense around getting them the ball, that's just the way it works.
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Cornish. Still don't trust the Bomber D.
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Paul Friesen hasn't cared about understanding the rules of football once in his career, he's not going to start now,
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Around the CFL Regular Season Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Keep him away from Watson during practice. do tell? He injured Watson at practice once (in 2013 I believe)... Watson was out 4 weeks or so... and holy **** did Burke ever throw West under the bus immediately after it happened The one thing Burke was good at was throwing people under the bus. -
Well in that case it could be "well he was close to the goal line and even kicked the corner marker over, probably good enough to call it in and review it to be sure" I just don't see how a lot of stuff like that isn't just called and left up to replay. It's just one way for the refs to be lazier.
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At what point will O'Shea start going for 2?
17to85 replied to Mike's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
No one asked you Tim Burke. -
Agreed. I mean they have it in curling with Hog line infractions. How someone hasn't figured out how to put the technology into other sports yet it strange. The only thing with something like a laser is you can break it with your foot and not the ball (See the reply ) I can see in hockey, them installing the same technology into the puck as they have in curling and once it crosses a certain line it lights up. Would take a lot of guess work off the refs. Not sure how they would do that with a football. But if there are any inventors out there that want my idea I want a 30% royalty The technology for curling is a bit different as it simply records if the players hand is still on the handle of the rock as it crosses the hog line. Where do you put the sensor in the football? The ball only needs to touch the goal line for it to be in, you would have to make the entire football able to become a sensor and that seems like a near impossible task. The solution to me is to accept that there will be human error in the officiating and just deal with it. Ditch all the reviews and just let the refs do their job and hold them to a standard FIFA has a few different "approved" goal line systems and I'm sure they'd be easily (relatively speak) adopted to football .. that said, you'd likely see it in the NFL long before it was adopted by the CFL .. interesting little overview of how that stuff works: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/16/world-cup-goalline-technology-football-brazil-2014 Most of those are still camera based and won't work as well in football, and one of the magnetic ones requires the frame of the goal to use it. I suspect the cost for the one that might work for football is prohibitively expensive for a league such as the CFL. We just need to stop pretending that there is a solution to take human error out of the officiating and accept that mistakes will be made. I have no evidence to back it up but I would suggest that the quality of officiating is lower since replay was introduced simply because the refs are using replay as a crutch. Doesn't matter if they make a poor judgement, replay will catch it.
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Agreed. I mean they have it in curling with Hog line infractions. How someone hasn't figured out how to put the technology into other sports yet it strange. The only thing with something like a laser is you can break it with your foot and not the ball (See the reply ) I can see in hockey, them installing the same technology into the puck as they have in curling and once it crosses a certain line it lights up. Would take a lot of guess work off the refs. Not sure how they would do that with a football. But if there are any inventors out there that want my idea I want a 30% royalty The technology for curling is a bit different as it simply records if the players hand is still on the handle of the rock as it crosses the hog line. Where do you put the sensor in the football? The ball only needs to touch the goal line for it to be in, you would have to make the entire football able to become a sensor and that seems like a near impossible task. The solution to me is to accept that there will be human error in the officiating and just deal with it. Ditch all the reviews and just let the refs do their job and hold them to a standard
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Keep in mind it is a Monday game for Calgary and it stormed like hell in parts of Calgary all afternoon and there was a chance of it storming again in the evening (even though it turned out nice) so it's not surprising there was a smaller turnout.
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[MERGED] Drew Willy Watch And Fine Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I don't like counting the dead cat bounces from firing coaches. -
Let's just ditch the replay already. It's making the refs lazy, they rely on it to catch mistakes and that hurts the over all quality of officiating.
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It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Good. They deserve each other then. Kind of like when Hitler contracted syphilis. It's probably the best site cause it's the only one that still humours him and hasn't given him the boot. -
That's irrelevant. Unless it's a passing play, the RB is his responsibility.
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It's time for the Riders to start sucking ...
17to85 replied to IC Khari's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
God did we ever hear that so many times here in recent years. Not with Tim Burke as coach but with Lapo and last season. -
[MERGED] Drew Willy Watch And Fine Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
No an offense losing the game is when a qb tosses a couple dumb ints like Cato did. The offense was fine, the Montreal D is good. Now the Bombers D on the other hand, that damn near lost them the game if not for a pick 6 and the blocked kick TD. I didn't think that Bellefeuille called the best game last night and his game planning (from week to week) is inconsistent at best but I will say that the offense didn't do anything to lose us the game. They took what was given to them and didn't back down when things got physical .. guys responded when they got "punched in the mouth" so to speak. The offense still has a long way to go. To me, it's not going to be able to play consistently like they did in Regina until that interior OL gets fixed. How many times did Cotton have to fight through contact just to get back to the LOS? That's ridiculous. We know what guys like Willy and Cotton can do when that interior OL plays well, but when they struggle plays are over before they even really begin. It's nice to win games, but clearly not sustainable at 400+ yards against and an offense that can't protect/control the inside gaps. Hopefully we're one of the teams that gets better this year instead of falling off the map after Labour Day. Noeller and I have talked about this a lot, when was the last time this team had a better fall than they did summer? Too often it's been a better summer and then falling apart at the end of the season. Would kill to see the team be one of the hottest teams in the league down the stretch for a change. -
Rate Danny McManus's Scouting at this point
17to85 replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Is this to mean that you don't like the 4 guys on the DL right now or that you're upset that Walters hasn't replaced the three guys left over from Mack? Same with LBs are you not happy with the guys you have? It's a different defense than what they ran when LaPolice was in charge, more of a 4-2 front with a hybrid of Dime defense with Randle playing as a rover at times. I don't mean to single out just you 17to85 but would like to know what parts of the roster folks don't like here. You'd think it'd be happier around here with the Bombers holding down first place in the West, having a 1-0 record in the division and beat Saskatchewan once already this year. Plus you could still have this roster - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers_season#Roster I don't like it when Peach is the best player on the defensive line and I've said that for a long time. He's a depth guy but if he's your best you are in trouble. So yes I expect a CFL GM should be able to find an end that is better than Peach. Walters hasn't done that yet. The tackles are struggling this year too, if they're not playing well why don't we have someone who can step in and up the play of the line? The linebackers have been lacking as well. We lost Ian Wild in the offseason and he has not been even close to replaced. I'm thrilled that they are 2-1 on the year, absolutely pleased, but when your defense is struggling as much as the Bombers is this year you are playing with fire. -
[MERGED] Drew Willy Watch And Fine Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That's exactly it. The turnover battle in the CFL is so key and the Bombers avoided the turnovers so the offense might not have out and out won the game, but they avoided losing the game and the turnovers by the Als won the game for the Bombers in the end. Pretty text book way to do it. Protect the ball on O, generate turnovers on D and special teams = win the game. -
Moving Chris Randle to SAM Was A Stroke of Genius
17to85 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Though he and Washington need to work on how they communicate back there and be more disciplined in their coverage. I'm not ready to even use "all-star" and Adams in the same sentence but he's shown a lot of promise and it speaks volumes that a rookie can step into the lineup and have the success that he's had so far. 2 picks in 3 games including one of them for a TD and his only problem is that as a rookie the communication isn't quite up to par? Yeah I'll say he's got star potential. Communication will come in time. ,He's a player plain and simple. -
Odds and Sods - Game 3 - Montreal Als at Winnipeg Blue Bombers
17to85 replied to do or die's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I really hate trying to pass this game off as luck. Yeah it wasn't pretty but they worked hard for that win and I don't think it was luck at all. The Adam int was a good defensive play. He read the pass and made a break on it. The Randle INT was just a bad decision by Cato, but bad decisions happen in football all the time. The punt block was a hard work play by the special teams. They brought some heat and it paid off. The D still has issues but they gutted it out and did make some stops when they had to. I would call this a character win more than a lucky win. -
Moving Chris Randle to SAM Was A Stroke of Genius
17to85 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Really impressed with Randle last night obviously. Can tell the guy is a skilled veteran. The DL also stepped up and played much better too, Turner especially I think took last week to heart and stepped up his game. Still some problems on D though. I haven't been overly critical of Hurl but there was one play last night, short yardage play for the Als and Hurl only hits the rb 6 yards past the LOS. Coulda stepped up and hit him right in the hole but nope hung back and let him get 6 yards before contact. -
[MERGED] Drew Willy Watch And Fine Discussion
17to85 replied to gbill2004's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
No an offense losing the game is when a qb tosses a couple dumb ints like Cato did. The offense was fine, the Montreal D is good. Now the Bombers D on the other hand, that damn near lost them the game if not for a pick 6 and the blocked kick TD. -
Rate Danny McManus's Scouting at this point
17to85 replied to BigBlue's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
It's worth comparing this regime to the regime they are replacing. A lot of people seem to like to give Walters a pass because he talks a lot about the importance of the draft and makes a splash in free agency but this team has holes on it that he needs to be able to fill through his recruiting. -
..... really???? ,,,, I don't want to live in this world anymore. GO WATCH THE SHOW NOW!!!!!!