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I would like to see the ages of the players and their point production at the time they signed those deals though. ******* Ladd is 29 years old, you don't commit to guys that age for 7 years at that big a ticket, especialyl when some of your teams most interesting prospects are high end talent wingers. You wanna pay Ladd 7 million per year when he's 35 and pushed down the lineup to 3rd line minutes?

Everyone remember how good Troy Smith looked in Montreal when no one had the book on him and how useless he was after that? Once CFL teams know how to stop a guy he doesn't have that rookie success forever.

I wonder how Glenn would have been viewed if he hadn't got his arm broken in 2007 and had won that Grey Cup... No one talks as much **** about Burris as they do Glenn and Burris is every bit the fair weather qb Glenn is. Terrible in the cold weather and pressure situations but he fluked out that one Cup win and no one questions him.

Good stuff. Every scout has areas where they are better at recruiting/assessing than others. It's part of the reason you have multiple scouts. Can't blame McManus for all the teams shortcomings in recruitment, he is only one of many. On top of that assessing talent is only half the battle. Getting them to come to Canada and sign a contract can be just as daunting a task as finding them. Who is to say that McManus hasn't turned up some gems at DE, or R only to have them walk away from the 45k a year we offered them. Joe Mack didn't have trouble getting DEs to come to Canada. Just excuses. There are areas our scouting and recruiting is lacking and it needs to get better. No excuses.

Everyone is playing zone so far this year in their base defense. It's pretty much impossible to play the man/match coverages when you can't run receivers into "checkpoints" downfield and toss them off their routes without it being called a penalty. The Bombers problem is in their front.Agreed. We are getting almost zero pressure on the QB's. The main reason why Hamilton dominated Willy (after that first drive) and then Brohm was that they dominated in the pass rush and residually controlled the run game with that pressure and the score. Until we get some consistent pressure we could have Roy Bennett, Rod Hill, James Jefferson, and Vince Phason back there and we'd still look silly. So far, on defense, IMO the biggest disappointment has been Westerman. Has he even made a tackle yet? Is he even playing? I don't even see him when the bombers D is on the field.While Westerman has not made anyone forget Doug Brown, there's lots of blame to go around. If none of his linemates can consistently break through in one-on-ones then the opposition can put two on Westerman and that's the end of that. If memory serves, the biggest pressure last year came when Teague Sherman blitzed from his outside linebacker spot. Maybe we could name this lot "Four on the Floor".Why would westerman make anyone forget about brown? Ones a tackle and ones an end.. Smh.He does make me forget starting Richardson as an end or when we had was it.. Riall Johnson? Another NFL journeyman ex Argo that was a canadian end. Westerman will be fine and if he brings even a level of peachness then I'm happy as a canadian Greg peach is pretty solid. I'd take a Canadian Greg Peach, trouble is the other end has American Greg Peach and that's a problem. Need one of the ends to be a terror on qbs. Honestly though I'm far more concerned about the tackles. Turner I am a huge fan of but he ain't done **** so far this year and Anderson I think I've seen only one or two plays of note out of him.

Everyone is playing zone so far this year in their base defense. It's pretty much impossible to play the man/match coverages when you can't run receivers into "checkpoints" downfield and toss them off their routes without it being called a penalty. The Bombers problem is in their front. Agreed. We are getting almost zero pressure on the QB's. The main reason why Hamilton dominated Willy (after that first drive) and then Brohm was that they dominated in the pass rush and residually controlled the run game with that pressure and the score. Until we get some consistent pressure we could have Roy Bennett, Rod Hill, James Jefferson, and Vince Phason back there and we'd still look silly. So far, on defense, IMO the biggest disappointment has been Westerman. Has he even made a tackle yet? Is he even playing? I don't even see him when the bombers D is on the field. Anderson and Turner haven't done much of anything either. I like both of those players but they need to start taking control of the line cause they've got their asses kicked both weeks so far.

Honestly too much being made of the Hamilton blitzes in my mind... They still managed 25 points and yes a lot of that was after the game was already academic, but that to me says they still managed to score and make plays against it, the real problem was the D couldn't get a stop at all. I want to know why the Bomber blitzes were ineffective.

Sutton Sadly betting against the Bombers D probably isn't a terrible idea.

Even under video review pass interference is still highly subjective and inconsistent. I just wish that they would clarify exactly what PI is and call it the same within each game. Nothing worse than a cheap PI call going one way and the same thing being let go later in the game.

if there's no symptoms though then he's probably fine. That's the thing about concussions is they're all over the map. Little bump on the head might put a guy out for months but a big shot might not have that much of an effect. I trust the doctors to make the correct call here because it's such a hot button issue these days.

The team is 1-1 tied for first place in the west I do believe. So they got their asses handed to them against Hamilton, so what, a loss is still just a loss. Fix the problems for next week and boom problem solved. When you get your ass handed to you like that you are more likely to make the changes required than if you lost a close game.

No one hates Marve, they only hate the constant Marve fanbois. The one people hate is without a doubt Brohm. He gets **** on from all comers because he's not Marve.

There is nothing wrong with continuing to develop Marve slowly. The way some people want to handle the qb situation is akin to Mike Kelly. Throw guys in and hope for a miracle. That just leaves a trail of broken qbs behind you while Michael Bishop is starting for you.

I just see some good assets in Marve I'd hate to rush the guy into a poor situation and ruin him like we've done with so many quarterbacks in the past. Really the way the D was playing yesterday there was no chance to win that game.

Defensive line without a second thought. It's the same as on offence, it all starts in the trenches and if you lose that battle you've lost the war.

I think you are confusing fanbois with fans who just want to see a QB in for us who is going to have the best chance of winning. With Willy's noggin getting a'floggin' (Ned Flanders h/t) a lot of us don't see Brohm as that guy. No there are definitely fanbois out there. You put a gun to my head I prefer Marve over Brohm too, but I get where the coaches are coming from here. Brohm is more of a pro at this point compared to the very raw Marve. Some people though, they act like Brohm is a moustache twirling villian and Marve is the hero who will fix everything wrong with the team. It's just so over the top.

Intent doesn't matter for the flag on that play. He hit Willy right in the ear hole should be an automatic flag. I mean it's a flag if a guys hand accidentally brushes a qbs helmet. There's not grey area here, either the guy is hit in the head and it's a flag or he wasn't hit in the head and there's no penalty. Fines and suspensions sure you can argue about that, but there 100% should have been a flag on that play because you can not strike the qb in the head under any circumstances.

I've been waiting for him to poop his pants and he hasn't done it yet. Meanwhile, I watched Brohm play the whole second half weighed down by pants full of poop. I'm not sure how wishing one of our most promising QB prospects in years poops his pants helps the team, or anyone for that matter, but what happens if Marve goes in and lights it up? Five years from now are you guys still going to be waiting to do the Nelson "Ha ha" when Marve eventually does have a bad outing? Hey I like Marve a lot just because he's an exciting player that seems to be able to make it work no matter how ugly it is and I want him to turn into a star... but the fan club has gotten to the point where it's annoying. I am convinced that Brohm could throw 80% completions and a few tds and people would still be screaming for Marve. Just so over the top I kinda want to see how the fanbois react to a tough outing by their shining star.

I kinda want to see Marve go in and poop his pants just to watch the anthill get kicked but good. What is everyone going to do if it happens? Admit they were wrong? Make a million excuses? be an interesting thing to see for sure.

Then put em in the game! The guys we're lining up now aren't doing the job time to make changes.

The fact that there was no flag on the play was disgusting, the fact that TSN went out of their way to never mention that it was a head shot is disgusting as well. Not one person on the broadcast brought up the missed flag there.

And if the Bombers hadn't turned the ball over to them so many times for instant points it might have been 600.Just pitiful that we came into camp saying we needed a better DL and the one we got looks worse. Oh how I miss the guys like Alex Hall or Phil Hunt. Walters appears to have failed miserably at recruiting for the teams biggest needs this offseason. That's bs.. The o line was the biggest need and he did that. Turner and westerman both were seen as great players. Randle was loved last season by even you. I don't pin this on Walters .. I blame the coach big time. We did better last year with Kuale!!! This purely is on the system and who he has playing where. He signed free agents for the OL. Westerman was seen as a great player cause he was a canadian from the NFL, turns out he's nothing special so far. Turner might still be great but the duo at DT is not getting the job done. One of them needs to be upgraded. Peach is better as a depth guy than the top DE, we need a better DE. that's 2 positions that need big upgrades on the DL before we can even think about having a good defence. Football is a pretty simple game and if you can't do basic things like pressure a qb you're gonna have a bad time and based on 2 games, our DL is pitiful

if they'd actually stuck to the ignoring canon thing with Star Trek it could have been the best thing to happen to the franchise because it's so bogged down with ridiculous canon it's unworkable. Instead they decided that Into Darkness should be a crappy Wrath of Kahn/Undiscovered Country mashup with nods to every piece of canon out there.

I suspect that he is being miscast. He`s always been on the smaller side for a DT and would likely benefit from playing next to a Doug Brown type who can just move people out of the way.

More concerned about the DL than LBs right now, but I will say I like Randle a lot better at corner than LB.