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Hogan sucks. That is all

Got a TL:DR for those not watching the pregame?

Pessimists. There's nothing wrong with this team that can't be addressed in short order... the question is whether they'll do what is necessary.

Terrible playcall that has been picked before because defenses know it's coming. If Hogan pulls that crap out again he needs to be fired on the spot because not only is it easy picking for the defense but there's no one to stop the return going to the house. Dumb playcall period.

I honestly think it's purely age and Willie can't go all out and because he can do the knockdown thing he does that to still be useful. Honestly they should split reps more than they do and let him occasionally put the fear of god into a qb.

Best we can do is line Thomas up at end.

Stupid is as stupid does

Well both those guys got better results with similar players so yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say Hogan is a clear step down from those guys. Lapos problem was entirely playcalling and knowing when to be conservative and when to go for it. He is a good football mind and did have a real nice playbook. Pierce similarly has run some good offenses in the past. Hogan though... he's got no accolades and defenses are not fooled in the least by what he's trying to do.

Kelly for hallet is fine and Parker going on for injured griffin is about the best you can hope for.... but man they gotta stop pretending what they're doing on the DL works.

Questionable

Well they certainly like to think they are... So here's the thing, people revere engineers but most engineers can't think outside the box and are pretty rigid thinkers, goes back to the math.

Engineering is math... engineers are nothing more than calculators.

Either way, reactions will be...

You're only as old as you feel.... awwww crap...

probably kelly for reasons... unless parker is ready

They ran, ran and then ran some more... that means there's less passing numbers total... streveler missed some throws for sure (but so did BLM, it happens) but the gameplan was run the ball and they did that.

Finding a way to what exactly? No I'm watching our offense struggle, and become inept after halftime no.matter who is at qb. Collaros better than streveler. Sure but neither one is showering themselves in glory due to other offensive factors

Doesn't matter if they do what we want or not, all we're saying is, if they used their roster better they could get more out of their defensive line and improve the defense dramatically. Cfl field is too big to never pressure a qb.

Collaros wasn't getting it done either despite hitting a few random deep shots here and there too.

I'd rather make it in the west and got into calgary and Regina and beat those assholes when it matters.

No GM worth a damn wants to be saddled with a head coach not of his choosing.

So explain why guys who were in camp are doing better than the departed Bridges.... that right there blows your entire argument out of the water.... cause those guys outperformed Bridges in camp too. You just refuse to admit that the coaches are fallible. It's OK. You know 2018ish I too was of the opinion that walters was more of an issue that Oshea, but Kyle Walters showed himself to be a proactive gm who could build a damn good roster whereas Oshea maintained his at times bonkers roster building and usage mindset. Given that we've also heard lots of rumors about walters leaving and Oshea being gm, is it a stretch to think oshea has a large say in players brought in these days? I dunno, I just know our roster usage is subpar and because of that issue it's really hard to judge what this team actually does have.

The only way things change after camp is if someone gets hurt. The stark difference in the preseason game between the #1s and #2s should have been eye opening.

Osh writes his depth chart in pen before camp even opens. The lack of competition is at a point where it's hurting the team badly now that the superstars are aging fast.

No no no, ticats D was a tire fire. Slight difference