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It's gotta be a balance. Glue guys are great... but at some point you need guys who can make some ******* plays consistently. We used to have that, we don't so much anymore. Too much glue and not enough wow.

$$$$$$$ If you ever wonder why, that's the answer.

However... if Cobb is the better option to start why the **** is Corcoran the guy backing up every game this season?

You sure about that? Lapo has his system and it's been the same for ever. Not all that different from what Hogan is trying to do, just lapo is better at it. For my money collaros would struggle in a lapo system because it relies on a lot of short passing which is absolutely the weakest part of collaros game.

For a team that relied on grinding out wins, especially late in the game ensuring you have the wind in the long quarter isn't always a bad thing.

He is constantly under throwing guys... how's that not cooked? Just because he will occasionally get it there if he puts everything he possibly has into it doesn't mean he still has the arm. Collaros needs to do what he did vsm Hamilton and turn into a game manager. But he's been stubborn about changing his whole career so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

People were happy as **** with the Hamilton game where he was getting the ball out short and quick.... but that ain't Zach's default

Oh there are plenty of tools around this offense.... But the biggest tool Zach is missing is his arm. He has shown an unwillingness to change the way he plays, but he doesn't have the arm anymore to be a bombs away guy.

I dunno, 2007 kinda sucked ass

Back breaking int right before the half (how many times have we seen that this year?) Followed up with the useless 3rd quarter... not a good look but been the way this team has rolled all season

Pretty sure lapo was their plan this year and he declined

I think younger is fine, I think the biggest problem on D is the refusal to rejuvenate the DL and linebackers

Well if they take a knee there's no risk of Brady getting hurt so on the balance it was probably a smarter play.

We called a draw with 1 play left to try and win the game.... what the **** kind of coaching is that? Brady ain't the guy to bust a run that long.

Collaros was ******* ass. All those people lining up shitting all over streveler better be doing the same after that game from collaros. It's not the qbs, it's the ******* clownshoes OC. Only thing more embarrassing is the 3rd and 2 defence and somehow turning a forced fumble with at least 4 ******* guys around it into a touchdown against. Jesus what a dumb team we have.

Make faj play from the pocket he'll throw the game away. Let him scramble around and make unscripted plays he might do something. Very little use for dumb qbs.

No. Who cares? We dressed 3 receivers who couldn't run and a linebacker who couldn't run either. Nick arbuckle beat the.bombers in a Grey cup too. We have made enough mistakes in cup games that's hardly an indicator.

Yeah for the folks who see a lot of bad things dark humour is the way to avoid getting overwhelmed by it.

No

If we'd lost those grey cup games by just getting beaten (like last year) that's one thing, but when you lose the previous 2 because you put a suboptimal lineup out there it is much much harder to take.

Signing Jake as depth is not a huge issue. Using Jake as if he's prime Doug Brown = huge issue.

And even that required a bounce up and over off the upright. --> <-- close to a shutout

Kolankowski got a vet day in there too eh, truly he earned it.

No one is asking for all out blitzes, but the defense isn't successful because they put Jake Thomas out there for 80% of the snaps at DT or DE. Put better players on the line and you can maintain the same defensive system while also having guys who can breakdown an offensive line without having to sell out for pressure. Is what they're doing working? Overall yes, but when you give qbs all kinds of time eventually they are going to find some plays.

So imagine if we could get pressure how good the D would be.