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It's OK, not everyone is a real CFL fan.

It didn't happened because we are starting 3 OL. Well that's kind of my point. They needed to adjust the ratio to make it happen weeks ago because 3 imports on the OL wasn't doing jack **** but Sears on the D could sure have helped.

Very interesting stuff there. Very interested in seeing how this configuration on the OL works and how Unamba looks in comparison to Dunn. Sears starting over Sherman should have happened weeks ago.

I'll give you 3. DeVone Claybrooks is the DL coach with the Stamps & Huff was going to promote him to DC as he thought he was ready until Rich Stubler became available. Tony Missick is the linebacker coach here in Calgary & from all accounts may be ready for a DC position. He has NCAA & CFL experience. Barron Miles in Saskatchewan is supposed to be a very good coach & may be ready to step up to DC. Now maybe I'm confused here but it sounds to me like Mr Dee is describing wanting a young Etch....

We can't say that until Cotton actually gets a chance to run with the ball. Against Edmonton he split time in the backfield a lot and when he did get the ball. Look at the first two hand offs to the guy, one was that stupid outside run they do where they give him the ball going parallel to the line and never block for him so he's met by 3 or 4 defenders before the LOS, the second the OL got completely destroyed and he was hit almost immediately. I think he got one other handoff in the first half. That's hardly giving your running back a chance to show what he can or can't do. Grigsby got 14 games to show what he can do. I am left with the impression that Bellefeuile just doesn't like Cotton because they never commit to using the guy when he's in there. Limited handoffs, giving him the ball running sideways too much.

You can find no less than 100 post this year where it is stated Lawless is as useless as they come yet you use him to support a comment from another guy that is also considered a useless writer. A marriage of convenience. I will admit Grisby's production went down the crapper. He might have been a cancer but until Mr. Insider gets a name tag I am not about to take it all as the truth. The reason his production went down is most times he got the ball the opposing dline was past our oline and waiting for him. The reason our QB is getting killed and our running game stinks is all on the Ol;ine. Cotton had 31 yards on 8 carries and that including one of 15 yards. Try this: Find the Ottawa game on the PRV and skip to the plays where we are running. Jog until you are at the point where Willy makes the hand off. From there single frame forward 15 frames which will be half a second after Grisby got the ball. See what he's looking at and tell me where's the hole he's supposed to go through. Try this, find the games where he actually had a hole and hesitated to allow the defense to close it, or the times when he went down at an arm tackle, or the times when he managed to be in the open field and find his own blocker to run into.... Everyone knows that the OL got stuffed a bunch and there was no running room, the issues with Grgisby come from the times when he had room to work with and failed to capitalize.

That is absolutely mind blowing...

The fact that it looks like Joseph is going to play is so LOL worthy... damned shame Durant didn't get hurt in the first game with the Bombers not the last.

god damn it people you all really really need a lesson in spotting obvious sarcasm

no one has said they don't count, the main issue is that we have had to use guys off the scrap heap that other teams don't have any use for because we can't recruit players. Talking about the Kuales and the Romby Bryants etc. With proper recruiting you don't need those guys around. You should be able to find rookies down south. I am willing to give them more time because changing regimes can make that first year iffy, but it vital that they do a better job this offseason.

Do you want a medal? The only people who didn't predict the results from Etchevary when his name was first brought up as a candidate were the sunshine and rainbows crowd who buy every thing the team does hook line and sinker. But here's the real kicker, he's actually been better than most of us predicted he would be. I don't like the bend but don't break defense, but they have made teams kick a lot of field goals and there's only been a few times they have really pooched the team. The offense right now is a far far bigger concern than the D.

The main point here is that the bolded were all guys who were in the CFL previously. As I said, he did some good work in free agency but a lot of those guys were plucked off the scrap heap and many of them shouldn't be starting at all and I'd argue are only starting because of how poor the recruitment has been. The cupboards were not nearly as bare as people make them out to be. This team without guys like Denmark and Washington and Wild and Turner would be absolutely terrible. The only guys of note that were recruited this past offseason were Johnson and Legett and I don't doubt that they would have been fine in the secondary playing Suber instead of Johnson either.

Grigsby was fast and had good hands and in space he was pretty solid. Problem is that he went down way way too easily. arm tackles knocked him down with ease and I don't think he was particularly good at reading his blocking and anticipating where the holes would be. The OL hasn't been good enough this season make no mistake and the run game would always have some issues beause of that, but make no mistake Grigsby if he wasn't a down on first contact/run into people running back could have had some more success. Stop ******* around with Cotton and give him an actual decent chance and I guarantee he does no worse than Grigsby and probably better running the ball

nah it's not twitter that undoes these guys, that just gives the general public a window into their stupidity. Stupid is as stupid does and twitter or not they'd get into the same trouble.

Hardly. Most of the starters for this team are guys Mack brought in. Walters did some nice work in FA, but he's so far behind Mack in terms of recruiting American players at this point that it's not even a fair comparison. As for drafting we need more time to see just what Walters brings to the team in that regard.

Loose lips sink ships. The reasoning is that O'Shea is very protective of everyone in his organization, his coaching staff, his players, no one gets thrown under the bus, he is putting all the spotlight on himself. The way the reporters in Winnipeg as leading or trapping questions he doesn't want to take the chances of someone slipping up and causing a controversy with an innocent comment that gets spun into something bigger. This isn't about him not trusting his coaching staff to say the right message, it's about recognizing what a bunch of morons the media in Winnipeg are. They like to take innocent quotes and spin controversy and try and lead people down a line of questioning to fit the column they want to write.

An Oline does not need to be 5 all star players, although I'd gladly take 5. If you have a couple of A's and B+'s on your Oline, a guy who's probably not better than a C can fit in and do a fine job - he's surrounded by players who make him look better. They have enough talent and cohesion as a unit to do the job. The best Olines in the league, the A+ crews, are not made up of 5 A+ guys. Their play as a group is elevated by the presence of a few superior individuals. We have a couple of B's surrounded by C's. As a unit, they play like a D. No one is surrounded by enough talent that their flaws can be masked. Instead they all manage to make each other look a little worse. Their play as a group is torpedoed by the presence of a few average individuals and zero superior ones. Whoever did the colour commentary on CJOB Monday made a telling statement - he said he couldn't figure out why the Bombers let Justin Sorenson go, he looked fine in Edmonton this year. Justin Sorenson could have looked "fine" in Winnipeg too, if he'd been surrounded by better players, like he is in Edmonton. He is completely average, and playing here would probably have looked anywhere from unspectacular to awful. So yes, I agree, we only need to make a couple of changes to get greatly improved play from our Oline. We don't have to upgrade every spot, but the spots we upgrade have to be with premium players. Replacing Morley with Neufeld and Sorenson with Morley might technically mean 2 spots were slightly upgraded from the year before, but without at least 2 powerful swimmers anchoring this line, this unit will continue to drown. Well part of it is that Sorenson and Morley are basically the same guy. They are servicable centres but anywhere else they're not doing you a whole lot of good. The idea I am sure was having a solid left side with January and Greaves with a solid Morley at centre, then you just need to figure out the RT and RG, Walters obviously had a lot of faith in Neufeld being one of those guys, then find the other guy from all the options you have around. The problem though is that the guys on the left side have had pretty poor seasons by their standards and Neufeld has spent more time on the IR than the roster it seems like and the other guys they've used on the right side haven't been up to par. A lot of things going wrong. When the guys you expected to be solid for you aren't playing or aren't playing well and the new people just aren't very good the whole thing goes to hell in a hand basket. To be completely honest I thought the OL started the year servicably, but in the last little while it's fallen apart completely.

That was answered in preseason though, there's no need to ask the question again because the answer hasn't changed. MOS is the voice of the team and he is going to provide one consistent message. You can argue the validity of that philosophy all you like but that's the way it is with oshea and bringing it up again isn't going to change anything so why waste time at a press conference asking it again?

same self righteous prick it always is... Paul Friesen. what a ******* tool, as if he thinks he's the voice of any fan. I could pick out a ton of people from this site who already do a better job reporting on the Bombers than he does.

who is the self righteous prick giving MOS a hard time about the reporters needing to know everything because they're the voice of the fans?

Your worst grade is a C, which is average. If you were right, we'd have an average to above average team and we don't. You're a really really easy marker. yeah the import scouting is at best a D. Leggett and Johnson were good but who else of note have they found? Trading hasn't really been that good either. Basically they brought in some OK depth NIs and some good free agents. The biggest area that needs improvement is the american scouting. They have to bring in better depth players than they did last year. Can't be relying on guys like Romby Bryant as your depth. I think people just got so angry with Joe Mack that they are willing to overlook the areas that Walters needs to get better at. Right now he's basically Brendan Taman without the experience.

I'd prefer they just bring in players with enough brains to restrain themselves.

I have never seen a softer running back than Grigsby. Yes there were other issues going on, but the guy went down too easily and left a lot of yards on the field all on his own. Now that it's shown what a piss poor attitude he has I am even happier that he is gone and dismayed that it took this long to pull the trigger. We are better off without cancers like that.

I don't think listing them as keepers is the right way to go about this. A better discussion would be players that need to be upgraded on.

Nic Grigsby @Nic_Grigsby5 · 56m56 minutes ago I'm a Winner, loving teammate, and a proving player! I will not sell myself short I love my family & teammates to much for that to do so! Who has time for egotistical quitters? proven player and a winner? Not from what I saw, yet here he is saying how much he loves his team mates which he's has thrown under the bus and quit on, you don't win with trash like that.