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less whoever was saying MB is WAY more important to Canada than SK.... pretty sure I'd take their economy over ours. But we don't need to turn this political! Except that's not what was said, the comment was that Winnipeg was a more important city than any city in Saskatchewan.

I don't think he looked poor at all against Winnipeg, he did what a backup is supposed to do. Manage & win the game. And like I said already, if he plays again like he did yesterday they put in Doege who's also taking 1st team reps in practice. I think Cortez's record speaks for itself, he knows what he's got. you are letting the final result cloud your judgement. He was 2 of 5 passing. That's not good at all. He is fortunate that his defense got a turnover late in the game or you might be on a 2 game losing streak because the backup qb can't get the offense going.

Gappers are way more arrogant than Manitobans. Most Manitobans are self deprecating whereas gappers are chest thumpers.

We're talking about American rookies. OK... but even still, I'd still put him at the top amongst rookies, regardless of passport... but again not what we're talking about here. There is a difference between bringing in non imports and imports. We are discussing how the american recruiting seems to have taken a step back.

well you certainly hope so but what if he plays a couple more games that shitty? If he looked rattled by the pressure what's to stop teams from just sending pressure after him and waiting for mistakes? I would also like to point out that something you rider fans don't want to admit is that it's not just one bad game, he looked poor against Winnipeg as well so it's 1 and a bit games, in a row, that he looked poor.

but I've never said that. Durant has been a winner since he first took over, you don't replace winners that simply. What I find funny is how rider fans were so up in arms about TSN putting Ray as a better player than Durant and now suddenly it doesn't matter, it's the TEAM that is good not the qb.

Like I said, homer of the highest order.

except Calgary has Drew Tate who has started and won games in the CFL and looked good doing it. HUGE difference between the Stamps situation and Riders and only a homer of the highest order can't see that.

Simply because of QBing, BC has a competent QB and Sask does not. We can make the game up against BC true but I still think the Riders are on the verge of a big tank and they will be the ones we catch. Because the Riders are 2 wins ahead with a game in hand, we don't play them again and they won the season series... meanwhile BC is only 1 win ahead with 1 game in hand AND we play them again with a chance to win the season series against them. Much easier to make up the difference in that situation than trying to chase down a team that is further ahead with the season series in hand already.

So you missed how losing your qb can change a teams fortunes huh? Well let me help you out. http://www.cfl.ca/video/index/id/102817/autostart/1

why worry about the Riders? Beat the Lions when they come to winnipeg and try and make up that other game on them somewhere and you're set.

No spinning. TiCats laid a beating on the Riders. Sunseri likely gets a half, or maybe a game, and then next man up. Riders were willing to let go of Willy and give Sunseri the keys in this situation. I'm betting he gets a whole lot more before Doege and/or Price get some reps. Maybe or maybe not. Fortunately for the Riders there still in pretty good shape as far as making the playoffs go. The Redblacks have a decent defence but their offence is pretty suspect. I suspect that if Sunseri struggles again he will be pulled. FTR, Doege got lots of first team reps prior to the Hamilton game. so are the Riders be willing to part ways with Sunseri because of Doege? Sunseri will get his opportunity. IMO the worst thing that happened to Tino was throwing the INT early in the game. He started holding onto the ball far too long following that INT. Let's be honest here though, the way the TiCats played the Riders would have been in tough even with DD starting. Hamilton played a strong game in all three facets. You mean he played like a rookie with no experience? He turned the ball over and the riders weren't able to play with a lead? No one could have predicted that! Yet here you are still making excuses for something everyone saw coming. Durant was taking care of the ball and completing enough passes to give the defense a break. He goes out and your new qb has bad accuracy and got the yips because the other defense made some plays against him... Exactly what happens when you throw a young qb into the fire.

+ 1. I know we all like to plant a flag in the ground and defend 'our turf' but fans of all stripes are welcome here and good posting guidelines apply to everyone .. be respectful .. be opinionated .. hell .. take shots at one another .. but keep it above board and don't sink into petty bickering .. nobody is going to like it if moderators step in start reigning people in. Yeah droves of rider fans showing up in the midst of 3 games in a month against them basically taking over every thread and then trying to so desperately be accepted... it's annoying as all hell. They'd do well to keep themselves out of the mainstream so much. I can't wait until they get bored or Sunseri keeps shitting his pants and they lose a few more games, that'll quiet them down.

I'd throw Stoudemire in that mix too. He went to camp with the Riders, but he'd never played a CFL game before. That's 4 good rookies. How many are expected for one season? How about finding some at more positions than just defensive back? I'd be hesitant to include a player taken from another teams PR anyway but still, he's another DB.

The Bombers are so banged up I'm not sure what Walters could do. He's actually done a pretty quick rebuild with his smartest move being O'Shea. He could have brought in just 1 receiver who could sit on the practise roster and play when needed rather than Romby Bryant. He could have brought in some better defensive line depth... he could have found a better linebacker than Kuale. Look Joe Mack made mistakes, most notably with his coaching hires, but the man did know how to bring in american rookies. Hell last year we had Wallace Miles on the PR as a receiver who could come in for injuries, look at what's he's managing in Ottawa this year, looking like a decent receiver at least. Walters made move to get some veterans in which helped initially and hired a good head coach, but in terms of the rookie import depth, not sold at all and he needs to be better at it. I am willing to give them a pass in year one because they are transitioning to a whole new scouting staff, but next year I don't want to see them having to resort of guys on their last legs like Bryant or space fillers like Kelly.

and when the next guy up gets thrown into the fire too quickly and looks bad? What then? You're in a situation Bomber fans know all too much about, might want stop spinning so much and learn from people with more experience.

What do you mean? QBs who started the season? If so it's 5. That have played all games. I should have clarified. Every other qb who started game 1 & continued to start has missed time. Don't you think we should wait until we have more information about Willy's injury before removing him from that club. Well, I'm assuming Willy's a no go from everything I've heard as in collarbone injury. Glenn never got hurt either as he was replaced. Rough year for qbs. Unbelievable. It all happened after that one guy made a thread about it, talk about a jinx.

careful with your spinning there boys, you might just fly right off the earth.

Happy employees are more productive employees. The notion that you have to be hard on everyone is so outdated it's not even funny.

Entirely too much is made of this whole "who they wanted most" idea. I think the clearest thing was they wanted someone, I am sure they had a preference, but I think they'd have been happy getting any of them so they took the proactive approach and didn't just target one guy, they made a pitch for all of them expecting to get one and to go from there. Collaros was the first available so they tried to get him first then Burris was a free agent so they tried to get him and when Willy was the last one left they made a trade to get his rights and signed him right away.

They have to find a way to get Sears back onto the roster. The man just makes plays. Go watch some of the games before he was hurt, the guy is all over the place making things happen. That they keep sitting him out even with some ratio issues is just criminal.

<--- loved living in Brandon for University for what it's worth.

Never mind that the CBA limits how often they can practise anyway so you can't even cancel the bye week. Quite honestly, a break is probably what this team needs more than anything. Just get away from the grind for a few days and come back refreshed, or do you people not take vacations from your jobs?

Exactly. We pursued them as they became available. Were we interested in all 3 ot them. Undoubtedly. If we had managed to land Collaros or Burris would we have lost out on Willy. Not necessarily. Rumors around the time of these pursuits were that we wanted one of Collaros and Burris AND Willy. Sorry but you all are really speculating if you think Willy goes from one team as a backup to another team as a backup. but there's merit to that speculation. Willy wanted to start, if the Bombers had signed Burris well he is old as **** and obviously not a long term solution, certainly shorter term than staying behind Durant. Contrary to the propaganda you folks buy hook line and sinker, players don't dream about playing in Regina forever.

maybe they actually got around to reviewing those games and realized they needed to actually call penalties.