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Benevides was there for a very long time... Good players and good coaches go hand in hand.

so someone is that bored they decide to **** around with a poll in favour of Greg Marshall? Come on now people that's just embarrassing.

THIS. Shameless Khari fanboi checking in, get that man on the Bombers coaching staff somehow already.

More than likely Sony wants too much money to sell it to video on demand distributers. They're probably looking for a ton of money since so much of a movies profits come from the box office. Mark my words in a couple weeks this will be in theatres and it'll do good business because it's a perfect storm for marketing, so perfect in fact that if they came out after the fact and said it was all a viral marketing scheme I wouldn't bat an eye.

Unamba played in Dunns spot did he not? People seem to be selling Sears short. Yeah the time he's missed to injury is a concern but for my money he might be the most talented player on the team. Washington is a talent too. People like to downplay his ability in the secondary because of the balls he's fumbled on punt returns, but the guy is a playmaker, you'd notice it if he were gone.

Oh I've seen it already. Cortez was unwilling to adjust the offense for the young qbs, it's his fault they didn't look good because he should have called the plays that didn't suck! You see if only he had changed the offense then Sunshine would have been great just like they all know he is! Hall on the other hand saw the defense regress badly as the year went on so obviously if he hadn't been poor at his job the D would have kept getting like 10 sacks a game! Chamblin and Taman was very wise to see things for how they are. Cup next year guaranteed.

oh but he was close, him and Horatio Sanz were brutal in sketches together. Laughing like *******.

You are such an uncultured cretin. *adjusts monacle and tophat* ...FYP. you yokels are pure Baltic Avenue

You are such an uncultured cretin.

I am not judging beach vacations, I think for a short stretch it's a fine idea but how on earth can you do it for 2 weeks? It's much more interesting to get out and do things. Few days lounging around in the sun sure but it gets boring after that.

Cork soakers

Shudders. Posts like this make me wonder if some folks just will never be happy around here. Of course they can be happy, they're generally happy when complaining about something.

I am skeptical though... Was it Bene, or the fact he had Solomon and Bighill as well as a glut of talent on the D? Those two boys alone would make a lot of coaches look better than they are. That being said- I would be cautiously optimistic if we got Bene. What role did he have in making those players into the beasts they are? Guys who wind up having successful players around them all the time probably have a pretty big hand in making said players better. Guy did earn himself a head coaching role for his work with defenses so I don't think he's someone who just rides coattails of players.

I'm aware. My point is outside of nostalgic reminiscing, reserved for guys like Mike Riley and Cal Murphy and a few select others, there have not been any coordinators that I can think of that have not been met with complaints from a not insignificant number of people. People argue that Lapo should have been fired on his first go-around as OC because in the second year the offence dropped to 4th in the league. 4th. The grass is always greener until it's planted on our yard. Whomever is hired is just going to be the next guy some people will demand we should fire. That's what happens when you go decades without a championship. Most people are tired of 7th or 8th place finishes that are eventually followed by 1st or 2nd finishes only to see the team completely collapse again. Also I don't remember anyone every bitching about burke as a DC. He ran a great D while here as a DC his trouble started when he took a role he isn't good at. I was going to say No one complained about Tim Burke as a DC because he was good at that aspect of things. It was just as a head coach he was an outright failure of spectacular proportions.

there is but it's a sliding scale depending on who you're trying to prop up or drag down at the time.

He has a better track record in the AHL than Eakins had, he has actually got a lot of production out of Oiler players in the AHL. He is a very good AHL head coach and that is widely recognized around the league. The question is whether he can translate it to the NHL or not. He is very different from Eakins though. Eakins just oozes arrogance and acts like he's the smartest man in the room, Nelson is much more humble and just goes about his business. I disagree that the problems are heart and compete. They play hard they just don't always play smart. One of the things Ralph Kreuger said was that sometimes young players can be over coached, sometimes you just have to give them simple tasks and let them play hockey. That appears to be a big part of what's wrong in Edmonton. Hell even the panel during the game pointed out that they looked like they were playing scared, and that's been happening for a while. It's interesting people like to only look at the second period and not the push back they had in the 3rd. They carried a lot of the play after that just weren't able to get any pucks to go in. A lot of people just grasp at the low hanging fruit and assume that if you work hard you're going to win, it's not that simple. In a league where everyone works hard you have to work hard in the right ways.

replacing coached midseason is just a waste. You gotta decide in the offseason if he's good enough or not and if there are any questions then you move on to someone you trust.

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and yet I can't help but wonder if the scheme on offense did enough to help the players we did have... I agree that the talent on D is better, but a lot of that is because we use most of the NIs on offense and NIs are the biggest problem spot on the roster.

People in winnipeg over reacting? no way!

Nowhere near enough credit for a guy like Bucknor ... he played great for us last year. Great? No let's not get delusional here. He was adequate. You bring the guy back for sure but let's not pretend the team wouldn't have continued along just fine without him. For a Canadian on the corner, he was great. Would we be worse off if he left? Yes. That statement is skewing your perception. Just because it's a low bar doesn't mean his play was great. He didn't **** up too badly that's all you really need out of the guy but I would suggest that if he leaves you just play an american in that position and actually improve your secondary overover all. Can likely find a way to replace the NI somewhere else. Maybe a linebacker position, maybe find a DL, maybe they even go with 3 receivers, or 4 OL.He's a useful player to have but he wasn't great. Starting Canadian corner who didn't embarrass himself continually and you don't see that as a great signing? At the very least, he gets bumped to 5th DB/STer/excellent backup... I'm confused as to why this irks you so.. He proved more then capable last season in a wonky defense.. Imma chalk it up to being argumentative simply to be argumentative because you had so much etch defense left to use and can't now lol my issue is with the unwarranted superlatives being tossed about

Nowhere near enough credit for a guy like Bucknor ... he played great for us last year. Great? No let's not get delusional here. He was adequate. You bring the guy back for sure but let's not pretend the team wouldn't have continued along just fine without him. For a Canadian on the corner, he was great. Would we be worse off if he left? Yes. That statement is skewing your perception. Just because it's a low bar doesn't mean his play was great. He didn't **** up too badly that's all you really need out of the guy but I would suggest that if he leaves you just play an american in that position and actually improve your secondary over all. Can likely find a way to replace the NI somewhere else. Maybe a linebacker position, maybe find a DL, maybe they even go with 3 receivers, or 4 OL. He's a useful player to have but he wasn't great.

Nowhere near enough credit for a guy like Bucknor ... he played great for us last year. Great? No let's not get delusional here. He was adequate. You bring the guy back for sure but let's not pretend the team wouldn't have continued along just fine without him.

Not going to lie I am disappointed in this news just because I was kind of looking forward to the absolute meltdown certain posters would have had on here if he'd been kept. Not unhappy from an on field stand point. I don't think he was as bad as a lot of people said, but I do prefer a more traditional defense so that should happen now.

There was always more talent on this team than people were willing to admit. Burke was a terrible coach that made guys look bad and there's a few key positions that are lacking, but Joe Mack could find players who can play the game. 17to85 you really comfuse me; just the other day you are saying I don't think it's the coaching but the talent, but today you are saying we have much more talent than most realize but the coach was just bad, but we have the similar talent with different coaches and now the talent is bad but the coaching is not the issue I just don't know where you stand can you clarify? Is our talent on our team, terrible, needs improvement, satisfactory, above average or exceeding? Is our coaching on our team terrible, needs improvement, satisfactory, above average or exceeding? That would definitely help us better understand where the team stands on talent and coaching at least from your perspective. I said Tim Burke was a bad coach and that they were lacking in a few key areas talent wise. I also said Joe Mack could find players who could play the game. Kyle Walters and his staff need to prove they are as capable as Mack was at finding American players. Notice how the guys getting NFL looks are the ones brought here by the previous GM? If you don't understand I suggest going back and reading things again. It's all laid out pretty straight forward. There is a seperation between the current GM and previous GM and current coaches and previous coaches.